Volkswagen Mark IV Forum banner
321 - 340 of 416 Posts
Been buggering around all day. lost the c clip which i found out its not and brought a box from halfurds to find out the e clips are the ones that are on there and cant find my ciriclip pilers anywehre .. first two are un remaped.. first one think i hesitated on the throttle towards the end the second time i didnt... third one is remaped... should i get it near enough flat with out "overboosting" despite duty cycle %? whats your advice?





just went on a little motor way run. logged the whole journey. Over boosted at 2.5 bar for a max of 3-4 seconds when foot been put down. noticed around 2000-2300 slight hesistation. Its like pulllllll then pulll for the rest of the rpm? any ideas? remaped that is.. but remapped and unremapped there still that surge of boost. confused...
 
Ive only got the free version of VCDS dont think i can do that... Should i get the duty cycle to 80% @4k or lengthen it a bit more to stop it over boosting? also should i attempt adjusting the stop screw? which way would you recommend?

The car just doesnt feel the same anymore...
 
caN SOMEONE TELL ME IF i NEED TO ADJUST ANYTHING?

038 906 019
CF
1.9l R4 EDC G000SG 1540
Group A:'011Group B:'003Group C:'010
Engine speedSpec. intake press.Actual intake press.D.cycle MAPEngine speedMAF (specified)MAF (actual)EGR duty cycleMAFAtmos. pressureIntake air press.Throttle
TIME2850-31502200-24002100-260035-80%TIME790-870230-310210-35040-75%TIME900-1250sensor -f96-2100-2600100%
MarkerSTAMP /min mbar %STAMP /min mg/str mg/str %STAMP mg/str mbar%
0.0118272203.21790.127.90.41953850945.74.80.81038.8989.42234.7100
1.222052305.22421.962.21.623528501249.54.821092.7989.42562.3100
2.42266723462480.472.12.8228358501122.14.83.211087.8989.42492.1100
3.61310823462421.978.54.0132558501033.94.84.411009.4989.42375.1100
4.81350723462363.481.75.213633850965.34.85.61960.4989.42351.7100
6.0138852325.62386.884.96.44011850970.24.86.8965.3989.42421.982.7
7.2133601050.61918.851.47.612394260602.74.88.02504.7989.41439.10
396.2829612070.62129.472.1395.492877810940.84.8395.88931999.62164.562.4
397.4814911091.41450.832.3396.682877320779.168.5397.08617.4999.61626.30
398.6821841111.81158.340.6397.881848230499.863.8398.28230.3999.61263.615.7
399.8821421111.81064.739.8399.082163240191.159399.47205.8999.61076.418
401.0821001111.81064.739.4400.282121240240.157400.68235.2999.61064.717.6
402.2820581142.4105339401.472079235210.757.8401.88235.2999.6105320.8
403.4820161142.41041.338.6402.68203723024558.6403.08235.2999.6105323.5
404.68197411731041.338.3403.871995230235.259.4404.27220.5999.61041.327.1
467.4219742264.4152129.1467.832058840896.74.8467.03627.2999.61275.396.9
468.6222682315.42398.562.2469.0224158501195.64.8468.231019.2999.6210679.6
469.82266723462468.772.5470.2227938501112.34.8469.421107.4999.62515.5100
471.02304523462410.277.3471.4231508501024.14.8470.621097.6999.62480.4100
472.22338123462363.480.9472.623465850984.94.8471.821009.4999.62375.1100
473.42367523462363.482.5473.823780850970.24.8473.02980999.62351.7100
474.6239902315.42433.689.6475.024053850965.34.8474.22970.2989.42410.2100
475.82291911731860.349.8476.2227518501058.44.8475.42793.8989.42363.40
1225.528821071982.819.91224.72882250210.756.21225.12230.3989.4982.80
1226.728821071982.819.91225.9882250230.3551226.32269.5989.4982.80
 
Are you experiencing any problems? looks pretty okay from the boost side of things... If you redo the channel 11 just on its own so the sample rate goes up. and start as low as possible around 1200 rpm. will give us more info on the boost side of things...'

Also need some advice on my problem please guys. need ya expertise...
 
I would leave the stop screw for now, your main problem is the boost behaviour below 2500rpm. It is taking too long to build boost but the stop screw can be adjusted once everything else is sorted.

The surge of boost is clearly visible in the logs, its as if the N75/actuator isn't reacting to what the ecu is requesting (increasing duty cycle). then all of a sudden its fine again. I'm leaning more toward a hardware issue with the N75, the actuator, or possibly even the turbo itself (i've seen a VNT mech get stuck on a newly rebuilt turbo where the vanes will be completely stuck and then suddenly free up.)

Do you have a spare N75 you can try? Have you checked the actuator is solid, i.e. it springs back firmly as it should?
 
Have you got any graphs what one should look like?

Was thinking about buying a new n75 just to see.. called up vw and said the current one on there has been superseded.. is it worth getting this new one? or just gettting a direct replacement off darkside..

I am running the car without the c clip on the actuator atm, bloody lost the thing, should have a couple of new ones tmo and will log again and see if that makes any difference. it seems to be soild and going up and down freely at idle...

Image


here another graph for when i was dialing in the actuator if that helps at all?
 
TIME2850-31502200-24002100-260035-80%
STAMP /min mbar %
0.3613441570.81134.919.9
0.7613651805.41181.720.3
1.14138618361251.919.9
1.5414281876.81322.119.9
1.94149119381392.320.3
2.3415541999.21485.920.7
2.74161720401591.223.9
3.1417012121.61743.327.5
3.5417852182.81907.136.3
3.9418902244210644.2
4.3419742264.42269.853.8
4.7420792284.82398.559.8
5.1421842305.22538.966.9
5.5323102325.62726.176.9
5.9324362335.82538.966.5
6.33254123462468.770.5
6.71268823462480.472.5
7.11279323462492.175.3
7.51291923462468.778.1
7.91302423462398.578.1
8.31312923462375.178.5
8.71325523462363.479.3
9.11333923462363.480.5
9.51342323462351.780.9
9.9352823462351.782.1
10.3361223462351.781.7
10.7369623462363.482.5
11.1378023462386.884.5
11.537381091.42386.894.4
11.8930871040.41825.250.2
12.2822681009.81591.242.6
54.4215331958.4128720.7
54.8215752009.4140423.5
55.2216382060.41532.722.7
55.6217222131.81696.525.5
56.0218272203.21883.735.9
56.42191122442094.345.8
56.8220162264.42281.553
57.22212122952433.659.8
57.622472315.42609.170.1
5823522325.62620.869.7
58.4247823462480.468.5
58.78260423462480.472.1
59.19273023462480.474.5
59.58283523462480.476.5
59.98296123462421.977.3
60.38306623462398.578.9
60.78317123462375.180.1
61.18329723462363.479.7
61.58338123462363.480.9
61.97348623462351.781.7
62.37357023462363.482.9
62.77367523462375.183.7
63.17375923462398.585.3
63.5738642335.82421.989.3
63.9739482325.6245791.6
64.3540532305.22468.793.6
64.7541162295245794.4
65.1540531101.62433.656.2
104.1415961754.41450.827.9
104.5416382070.61556.123.5
104.9417222131.81696.526.3
105.3418062193187233.5
105.7418902233.82059.243.8
106.1419742264.42246.453
106.5220792284.82386.858.6
106.9221842305.22538.965.7
107.3223102325.6269174.1
107.7124362335.82527.267.7
108.11256223462492.171.7
108.51268823462492.173.3
108.91283523462480.475.7
109.31294023462445.376.9
109.71306623462410.278.5
110.11317123462375.179.3
110.51329723462363.480.5
110.89340223462363.481.7
111.29350723462363.482.1
111.69361223462375.182.9
112.09371723462386.884.1
112.4938222335.82410.286.5
112.8939062325.62445.390
113.2940112315.42468.792.8
113.6940531560.6245794.4
 
[quote user="jimkime"]

TIME2850-31502200-24002100-260035-80%
STAMP /min mbar %
0.3613441570.81134.919.9
0.7613651805.41181.720.3
1.14138618361251.919.9
1.5414281876.81322.119.9
1.94149119381392.320.3
2.3415541999.21485.920.7
2.74161720401591.223.9
3.1417012121.61743.327.5
3.5417852182.81907.136.3
3.9418902244210644.2
4.3419742264.42269.853.8
4.7420792284.82398.559.8
5.1421842305.22538.966.9
5.5323102325.62726.176.9
5.9324362335.82538.966.5
6.33254123462468.770.5
6.71268823462480.472.5
7.11279323462492.175.3
7.51291923462468.778.1
7.91302423462398.578.1
8.31312923462375.178.5
8.71325523462363.479.3
9.11333923462363.480.5
9.51342323462351.780.9
9.9352823462351.782.1
10.3361223462351.781.7
10.7369623462363.482.5
11.1378023462386.884.5
11.537381091.42386.894.4
11.8930871040.41825.250.2
12.2822681009.81591.242.6
54.4215331958.4128720.7
54.8215752009.4140423.5
55.2216382060.41532.722.7
55.6217222131.81696.525.5
56.0218272203.21883.735.9
56.42191122442094.345.8
56.8220162264.42281.553
57.22212122952433.659.8
57.622472315.42609.170.1
5823522325.62620.869.7
58.4247823462480.468.5
58.78260423462480.472.1
59.19273023462480.474.5
59.58283523462480.476.5
59.98296123462421.977.3
60.38306623462398.578.9
60.78317123462375.180.1
61.18329723462363.479.7
61.58338123462363.480.9
61.97348623462351.781.7
62.37357023462363.482.9
62.77367523462375.183.7
63.17375923462398.585.3
63.5738642335.82421.989.3
63.9739482325.6245791.6
64.3540532305.22468.793.6
64.7541162295245794.4
65.1540531101.62433.656.2
104.1415961754.41450.827.9
104.5416382070.61556.123.5
104.9417222131.81696.526.3
105.3418062193187233.5
105.7418902233.82059.243.8
106.1419742264.42246.453
106.5220792284.82386.858.6
106.9221842305.22538.965.7
107.3223102325.6269174.1
107.7124362335.82527.267.7
108.11256223462492.171.7
108.51268823462492.173.3
108.91283523462480.475.7
109.31294023462445.376.9
109.71306623462410.278.5
110.11317123462375.179.3
110.51329723462363.480.5
110.89340223462363.481.7
111.29350723462363.482.1
111.69361223462375.182.9
112.09371723462386.884.1
112.4938222335.82410.286.5
112.8939062325.62445.390
113.2940112315.42468.792.8
113.6940531560.6245794.4

[/quote]

You still haven't said what the problem is
 
Normal
0

false
false
false

EN-GB
X-NONE
X-NONE

/* Style Definitions */
table.MsoNormalTable
{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
mso-style-noshow:yes;
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-parent:"";
mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
mso-para-margin-top:0in;
mso-para-margin-right:0in;
mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt;
mso-para-margin-left:0in;
line-height:115%;
mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}

Ok confession time. I
bought a new turbo and cat and installed them a month ago. The turbo was brand new. After install the new turbo whistled like a
siren (new oil feed pipe also installed).
I have a workshop in France and drove it back to the UK, I suppose about
1000 miles. I took the car to a
specialist and he told me it was not normal.
This was confirmed, when I switched off the engine and opened the oil
filler and or looked in the air intake pipe there was blue smoke. Non from exhaust pipe. This moved me to look at the turbo arm
position. Someone told me that the turbo
should be left as from the manufacturer.
When comparing with the old turbo arm position with the new one there
was a large difference. So I put the new
turbo to the old turbo arm settings and blue smoke went away, however, the
wine/siren noise still existed. So I
took off the new turbo and rebuilt it with new bearing etc. Now the wine/ siren noise is very low volume
and hard to here. I also rebuilt the old
turbo back to a new standard as a spare one.
So these are the results of the new / rebuilt turbo, with the old turbo
settings. I am getting 36mpg combined
and I am getting no blue smoke, so I am hoping no damage to engine, hence why I
have sent these result though. Oh how do
you upload the graph?
 
The arm settings on the new turbo from manufacture was almost full extension. The arm settings now and from the old turbo are set to very close the the bracket, about 25mm from the underneath the bracket to the top of the lock nut. Almost completely opposite ends. Hence why the (old new) turbo screamed and pasted oil through its bearings. into the intake side. So looking at the results now I was wondering if I need to extend the arm by a turn at a time to get it close to 80% at 4000rpm?
 
Correct... Probably only 1 turn from what it looks like... You sure it wasn't a refurb turbo? I got a new refurb turbo, wines ever since i got it, because some c*nt at the garage obvs booted it on the test drive and it was majorly overboosting.
 
So the turbo on my golf started to play up and then no turbo at all so I have now had a new N75 and a new turbo fitted, replaced all the vacuum lines and checked they are plugged up correctly and still it goes into limp mode.

When I start it early in the morning I get maybe 5 miles with the turbo working then limp mode.

One thing I noticed is that when the car is running idle and I pull the line out the air box there doesn't seem to be much if any suction from the pipe.

Any ideas and what else should I check?
 
Just fiddling around today just to bring in the peak of boost. second attempt got this..

Image


I'm puzzled, with the rod shorter it has a massive boost and dip. now its shorter little dip. Do you think it is the n75? or is it fine? who says at 4k duty should be 80%?

how the f*ck do you ajust that stop screw. Its in such an awkward place any suggestions? think my vanes are to closed needs lengthening at bit. came to that conclusion when looking at it probz only 5mm out? or could it need reducing?
 
321 - 340 of 416 Posts