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Once again my reliable VW has broken down. It's currently in the garage for the 10th time since i bought it just under a year ago. Luckily its still under a used car warrenty.

Anyway, my car (1.4 Bora 2000 reg 65k miles) was in the garage last Monday getting a full check. Garage agreed to this since i've had so much trouble with it. They gave it a clean bill of health plus new plugs and leads fitted. On Saturday i was driving along.and there was a weird whurring noise. I lost all power and had to pull in. Engine doesn't really start. It tries, sounds like a tractor for a second and dies. Called the towing people and the guy said it soinds like the cambelt is slipping or could be the ignition coil.

What's the consequences of either of these 2 things happening?
 

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Agree coil pack - it's electrical and not so bad.

Cam belt slipping might not be so bad on your engine. I'm guessing its not a multi-valve?? U might be ok.

I know a slipping cam or a snapped belt on a 1.8 20V mean a 'new engine' it's not just bent valves. Perhaps its the water pump playing up - that runs off the cambelt.

Fingers crossed!!
 

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10 breakdowns in a year. Man that really is bad luck.
Yeah i know. I'm sick of it. Have a day of on Thursday so gonna go looking for a new car. I now hate the MKIV!!

Thanks to everyone for the replies.
 

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To add insult to injury the garage just phoned and they've lost my key. It's the only one I have. It has not been a good day. [:(]
 

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If they have lost your key I would say that is their problem mate, tell them you want a courtesy car until they sort out their mistake and return the car to you with a working key!
 

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If they have lost your key I would say that is their problem mate, tell them you want a courtesy car until they sort out their mistake and return the car to you with a working key!
Went down there this morning to sort it out. They said they think the security guard who was on when the car was towed in has the key at his house. Anyway, they've given me a Renault Scenic for the next few days. It'll do for spinning around. Wrote them a nice letter too about all the times the car has been in to them just for the record.
 

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Right, i rang the garage (non-VW) and they said the ignition coil is gone and that VW should have a load of them cause they go regularly. Anyway they said they'd have the car fized by Tuesday at the earliest(that's a week in there) cause they've "sent the head away to be fixed".

What does this mean? Is this bad? Does this sounds like something that needs to be fixed if the ignition coil goes?
 

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If the coil or ignition pack go,this just means no spark,can't see why or how this would need the head sending away?
 

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If the coil or ignition pack go,this just means no spark,can't see why or how this would need the head sending away?
Well when it went it lost all power and the engine shook and sounded like a tractor. If all 4 (or however many) plugs were firing at different intervals would this someone mess up the timing and damage the head?
 

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If the coil or ignition pack go,this just means no spark,can't see why or how this would need the head sending away?
Well when it went it lost all power and the engine shook and sounded like a tractor. If all 4 (or however many) plugs were firing at different intervals would this someone mess up the timing and damage the head?
It would run like a sack of donkey poo yes,but if it fired all over the place,i.e. anywhere but just before top dead centre on the compression stroke,you'd get no power stroke in theory, if it sparked when the exhaust valve was open,or even the inlet valve,you'd never get complete combustion,I'd guess there'd be unburnt fuel being pushed out of the engine,so maybe damage the cat?The only way to damage the head that I know of would be if it was detonating,or if the timing belt had slipped,and the pistons and the valves were hitting each other.I might be wrong,so please don't quote me on this one,but sounds a bit odd to me.
 

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The only way to damage the head that I know of would be if it was detonating,or if the timing belt had slipped,and the pistons and the valves were hitting each other.
Thanks for the replies. The roadside assistance guy said the timing belt could have slipped a bit too but he checked it and it seemed tight enough. I guess I'll just have to wait and see. This is the 2nd time it's been "sent away to be fixed". The first time was when a timng belt tensioner broke a few months back. They should have just gotten a new one.
 

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Phoned the garage(Toyota - car under used car warrenty) last Wednesday to be informed that the engine is out of my car and all over the floor. The head was at the specialists and they were having compression problems. I'm by no means a mechanic but it didn't sound too good to me.

Rang them again yesterday and they said they were waiting for parts. An ignition coil and a camshaft.

What's a camshaft? Does it sound like they're completely rebuilding the engine?
 

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The camshaft is the thing that makes the valves open and close, its driven by the timing belt. they can get damaged along with the valves if the belt slips or snaps. If they have sent the head away it sounds like they will have had it skimmed and the valves re-ground in.

Edit: If the "specialists" are having compression problems, I think that would mean the head is cracked or porous.
 

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If the "specialists" are having compression problems, I think that would mean the head is cracked or porous.
That doesn't sound good. Think i'll be looking to get rid of it soon. Had too much trouble with it.

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with that many problems i'd be asking for my money back!!!!!!!!! or a major good gesture will!! (wait till the work is done, and speak to the warranty company as well).
 

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with that many problems i'd be asking for my money back!!!!!!!!! or a major good gesture will!! (wait till the work is done, and speak to the warranty company as well).
Won't get money back at this stage. I've had it for just over a year. Warrenty was up last Saturday. Gonna wait to get the car back and then demand an extended warrenty.

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Got my car back yesterday, 4 weeks after it was towed into the garage. They completely rebuilt the engine. Well that's what i was told. New pistons, valves, valve guides, camshaft,timing belt, tensioners, pullies, ignition coil etc. They skimmed the head too. Seems to be running well at the moment. Fingers crossed! [:-*]
 
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