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What is the mechanical difference between PD100, PD130, PD150?

I know that PD130 to PD150 is a FMIC over SMIC, but what about injectors etc?

Basically, is is mechanically and/or economically viable to produce a PD150 from a PD100?

I realise that the clutch would be a weak link.
 

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I have it on good authority the pd100 and 115 are based on the old
90/110 block and are weaker than the 130/150. Injectors are apparently
the same on the 130/150, not on the 100 and dunno about the 115. Not
saying the 100 can't take the power of a standard/chipped 150, but
theres more stress than intended. The pd100 also has a 5 speed box, the
torque of a chipped 150 is well past spec. I would get a 130 or 150
engine and run it on the 100 management, with a 130/150 remap.
 

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Thanks

I have found that Superchips do a conversion of +30 BHP, so you can get from PD100 to PD130 easily and cheaply.

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/vagpd100.pdf

Just wondered how far you could go. As you say all other components of drivetrain become the weak link if you try for more that one "jump" in power (100>130>150>180 etc).
 

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I sold a pd130 engine a year or so back for about ?250, thats about
half the price of a superchip, would be an option if you plan to up the
power even more in the future
 

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What is the mechanical difference between PD100, PD130, PD150?

I know that PD130 to PD150 is a FMIC over SMIC, but what about injectors etc?

Basically, is is mechanically and/or economically viable to produce a PD150 from a PD100?

I realise that the clutch would be a weak link.
Afaik only the 150 has a FMIC.
 

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What is the mechanical difference between PD100, PD130, PD150?

I know that PD130 to PD150 is a FMIC over SMIC, but what about injectors etc?

Basically, is is mechanically and/or economically viable to produce a PD150 from a PD100?

I realise that the clutch would be a weak link.
Afaik only the 150 has a FMIC.
That's what my backward gibberish meant [:$]:
"I know that PD130 to PD150 is a FMIC over SMIC" = one difference, for example, between the PD130 and the PD150 is the move from SIDE to (larger) FRONT mounted intercooler.
 

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Hi

We can offer Custom-Code to a 100pd engine.

This would take it up to 150bhp

We have a technician with the Fabia PD100 with this on.

He has had no problems with this.

The main fault would be the clutch.

But this would only damage if there was a dip in the torque curve.

That is what makes the clutch slip.

This code has none so there would not be an issue with this.

We also did Rich1068 wifes 100PD a code.

She is over the moon with this code.

If you want more information I would be happy to help.

01246 222221 is the number for Custom-Code

Thanks

Sarah
 

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Cool - thanks very much for the responses

Shopping List:
1x innoculous looking Polo 100PD
1x 150 code upgrade
1x Disposable camera (for pics of surprised road users)
 

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The main fault would be the clutch.

But this would only damage if there was a dip in the torque curve.

That is what makes the clutch slip.
It does peev me off when I hear so much crap on forums and this is no
exception. The reason the clutch slips is not due to a dip in the
torque curve, its due to there being too much torque for the clutch to
transmit with a set clamping force (this is determined by the spring
from the clutch pressure plate).

To cut a long story short, chipping the car will reduce the clutch life
by a factor of the torque. Ie if you double the torque of the engine
the clutch life will almost come down by half. Although this is
dependent on the way you drive it after chipping.

The transmission of the car is usually far more robust than necessary
so I would still expect this to last the life of the car. Also
driveshafts should be okay but fatigue life will nacker these too.
 

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What is the mechanical difference between PD100, PD130, PD150?
Not much really, the main points have been covered, intercooler, clutch etc. but the engine is basically the same, there are detail differences in induction and turbos. i.e. the 115 and 130 have the same engine, gearbox and turbo but there are details in the induction and engine management to give the extra bhp.

If you've got a 100PD then you've already talked about the main points - chip etc - it might be worth asking if there's any difference in the part numbers across the clutches on the 100/115/130....

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dont know about the 115bhp for sure but i do know the 150 and 130 have the same block and pistons, same part numbers they also share the same injectors. my understanding was the 115bhp engine came out in around 98 and then in 2000 the 150 was designed from the 115 with internal parts modified (more alloy in the pistons to cope with extra heat etc) and stronger conrods, and then they derived the 130 from that, dont know anything about the PD100 though execpt for the clutch, i compared a 130 clutch(same as 150) side by side with a 100 clutch disk, i didnt measure but the 130 clutch appears between 10 and 15mm larger.

the 130/150 block are bullet proof, there is rumours they could withstand up to 300bhp
 

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Hi

We can offer Custom-Code to a 100pd engine.

This would take it up to 150bhp
Are you running the same rollers as Jabba now [;)]

I also believe the Turbo on the PD150 runs on a titanium spindle
 

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Good increase, I assume thats the "stage 2" ?? What other mods

does that include apart from the re-coding?

Can you really achieve a reliable 50% increase in power??
 
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