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...if they introduce this new form of speed camera...have no other details, just the photos from another forum. Mind you at least its at the perfect height for vandalism - reversing a knackered Transit into it a few times should do the job.?
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Thats what I thought, but its pertrudes from the barrier enough for there to be an angle mounted camera in there. I.e it takes pictures if the side of the car going past is quite enough to set it off.

Same as the curbside ones I spose, though don't know how they work either. They have them in dustbins in some countries, so would all work on the same premise.
 

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You can call me old fashioned,but is not easier just to not speed than to go round smashing up speed cameras?

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I thought the camera had to be highly visable hence the dayglow yellow front and back to the standard oones you see. As for the carmera seeing all the road all they need is a good wide angle lense then their laughing.

just another way to rob the general public.

Now where did I put the keys to that transit!
 

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just another way to rob the general public.
They're not robbing you if you're breaking the law,and that is a law which should be known to everyone who holds a UK drivibg licence.

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You can call me old fashioned,but is not easier just to not speed than to go round smashing up speed cameras?

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Your crazy off the wall ideas intrigue me. I think they are a bit radical for me though [:p]
Zero points so far so must be doing something right...but I have no problem with the concept of speed cameras, just the way in which they are used and where they are put. Outside a school or on a residential street sure...on the motorway and covert? Hmm.?
 

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With the amount of traffic jams and stationary traffic around Manchester lately i'll have plenty of time to pick off a load of these cameras with my air pistol....[:p]
 

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You can call me old fashioned,but is not easier just to not speed than to go round smashing up speed cameras?

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Your crazy off the wall ideas intrigue me. I think they are a bit radical for me though [:p]

Zero points so far so must be doing something right...but I have no problem with the concept of speed cameras, just the way in which they are used and where they are put. Outside a school or on a residential street sure...on the motorway and covert? Hmm.
Snap on all acounts. No points as yet "runs round whole house touching all wood" and agree that in some cases that they are a very good thing, but as long as they are used sensible not hiden away behind signs, trees, bridge parapets and so on. The one in the original picture is obviously ment to be discrete and thus no real deterant your just going to spend your time looking for the thing and not concentrating on the road.

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I thought the camera had to be highly visable hence the dayglow yellow front and back to the standard oones you see. As for the carmera seeing all the road all they need is a good wide angle lense then their laughing.

just another way to rob the general public.

Now where did I put the keys to that transit!
That piece of legislation won't last much longer. The safety partnerships have got the go ahead to reduce visability and new cameras can be hidden. Read it on pepipoo which had a link to a news story. It mentioned 'camoflaging' (sp).

This was either coming into effect in 2007 or 2008. The safety partnerships were complaining that drivers could see, react, slow down and then carry on. Therefore reducing saftey.

What this means also is they will not have to publish where their vans are going to be, neither will they have to mark their vans up (not that they do it very well down here, you get 'safety unit' in small writing above the wheel arch and then they sit on a bridge in a grey van). What caught me last time! [:$]
 

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just another way to rob the general public.
They're not robbing you if you're breaking the law,and that is a law which should be known to everyone who holds a UK drivibg licence.

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Some laws are bad.

Dunking witches used to be within the law.

A man walking in front of your car with a red flag used to be the law.

Stupid and pointlessly low speed limits are bad law.
 

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just another way to rob the general public.
They're not robbing you if you're breaking the law,and that is a law which should be known to everyone who holds a UK drivibg licence.

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what ever....your telling me that you NEVER EVER EVER speed or have. You can keep to the limit but that one time you just pressed it alittle to much

and get caught your not worried ????
 

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But whether you agree with them or not,they are still the law.They are put there for a reason,not to generate a "stealth" tax,the reason being that they are supposed to make drivers slow down to a SAFE speed for any given stretch of road,with the threat of a financial penalty if they drive at a speed consdidered to be dangerous for the road.
If these "pointlessly" low speed limits go someway towards saving even one life,is it not worth giving them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

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But whether you agree with them or not,they are still the law.They are put there for a reason,not to generate a "stealth" tax,the reason being that they are supposed to make drivers slow down to a SAFE speed for any given stretch of road,with the threat of a financial penalty if they drive at a speed consdidered to be dangerous for the road.
If these "pointlessly" low speed limits go someway towards saving even one life,is it not worth giving them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

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No.

Because speed is not the problem and its reduction in most instances is not the answer.
 

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just another way to rob the general public.
They're not robbing you if you're breaking the law,and that is a law which should be known to everyone who holds a UK drivibg licence.

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what ever....your telling me that you NEVER EVER EVER speed or have. You can keep to the limit but that one time you just pressed it alittle to much

and get caught your not worried ????
It's a good few years since I lost my licence for speeding,and that was on a motorbike.Within a couple of days of getting my licence back,I had a very serious accident that I very nearly didn't recover from.This was caused by me driving too fast for the conditions and the road I was on,in fact about 90MPH in a 30MPH zone.It took me nearly three years to walk again after this,and it's made me look at roads,and the way drivers act on them in a completely different way.Beacuse I'd never had even a minor accident before this,I guess I thought they always happen to other people.
I like to think I don't need to rely on any sort of electronic aids to remind me what the speed limits are,but yes I do have my Garmin switched on with the "Points of interest" database loaded whenever I travel any distance.

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But whether you agree with them or not,they are still the law.They are put there for a reason,not to generate a "stealth" tax,the reason being that they are supposed to make drivers slow down to a SAFE speed for any given stretch of road,with the threat of a financial penalty if they drive at a speed consdidered to be dangerous for the road.
If these "pointlessly" low speed limits go someway towards saving even one life,is it not worth giving them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

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No.

Because speed is not the problem and its reduction in most instances is not the answer.
Ok then,it's a lack of respect for speed that is dangerous,not the speed itself.So what is the ultimate answer then?

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But whether you agree with them or not,they are still the law.They are put there for a reason,not to generate a "stealth" tax,the reason being that they are supposed to make drivers slow down to a SAFE speed for any given stretch of road,with the threat of a financial penalty if they drive at a speed consdidered to be dangerous for the road.
If these "pointlessly" low speed limits go someway towards saving even one life,is it not worth giving them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

Chris.
No.

Because speed is not the problem and its reduction in most instances is not the answer.
Ok then,it's a lack of respect for speed that is dangerous,not the speed itself.So what is the ultimate answer then?

Chris.
I don't think there is any ultimate answer.

But blaming speed for everything is not the answer. At the rate we are going, we will soon be back to the man with the red flag. Driver education is probably the best course of action. Afterall if your a bad driver, if your going 40 in a 50, you can still do an awefull lot of damage. I do about 30k a year and would say that almost all accidents I see involve HGV's, they don't and can't speed so where is the logic in the speed based arguement ? Reduce their speed on motorways to 40 ?

Again, what annoys me is when they reduce a speed limit on a road. For example, a road you've been using for years and years with a 60 limit is suddenly reduced to 50 or even 40. Why ? You must have encountered this and must get frustrated about it knowing that the road was perfectly safe with its 60 limit ?

It is easy to blame everything on speed, I wouldn't be supprised if third world debt, the fall of the Roman empire and the fact that smarties no longer have letters embossed on their lid are soon said to be caused by speed.
 
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