Well ....did the mod to the switch circuit board and put it all back together ..... and have electrical continuity between pin 5 (earth) and pin 4 within the socket when the knob is turned to the folding mirror position .... so all should be OK for the earth signal output.

Still need to do the whole folding mirror install (using the audi 361 relay) mod so can't test it fully yet though ... but if it works as per the video it will be great.[Y]

 

I'm presuming that #79 relay could be changed out for any 4 pin relay? #53 Would presumably do just the same job or is there something special about 79 that I'm missing?

 

I'm presuming that #79 relay could be changed out for any 4 pin relay? #53 Would presumably do just the same job or is there something special about 79 that I'm missing?

Hi Mate , 53 relay is 4 pin relay , the 206 relay is the same with 53 but do the opozite work.The 79 relay is the 53 and the 206 together.
So the 79 can be used as 53 and also as 206 relay
.For this mod you can use the 79 or the 206 relay

 

Gotcha, normally open vs normally closed. So you could use a 4 pin NC relay []

 

Gotcha, normally open vs normally closed. So you could use a 4 pin NC relay

Hi , the 53 and 206 are 4 pin relays , but they do opozite work . See Graeme webspace the relays diagrams...
The 79 is 5 pin relay
Cheers
Nick

 

Here is a difference between the 3 relays

Cheers

Nick

 

I'm presuming that #79 relay could be changed out for any 4 pin relay? #53 Would presumably do just the same job or is there something special about 79 that I'm missing?

You can check the pics i posted .Thanks
Nick

 

That good modification!
I was looking for the same thing for my car.
If I may ask:
This modification is performed after placement of the relay 361 in our mk4?
This plane is the one that I found to install my mirrors with audi relay 361 and adding a pair of relay investors to work properly the motion controller mirrors:
I can use that plane and add the solution proposed by the creator of this post golfmk4gr? Or install the relay 361, another more effectively.
Watch your videos on youtube modifications, are great golmkgr!
I found this thread looking for information and I found a great forum full of content and to improve our VW.
Greetings and thank you very much.
We introduce myself properly in the forum.
Hernan.
PS: sorry for my English is pretty basic

 

Thanks Nick!

 

That good modification!
I was looking for the same thing for my car.
If I may ask:
This modification is performed after placement of the relay 361 in our mk4?
This plane is the one that I found to install my mirrors with audi relay 361 and adding a pair of relay investors to work properly the motion controller mirrors:
I can use that plane and add the solution proposed by the creator of this post golfmk4gr? Or install the relay 361, another more effectively.
Watch your videos on youtube modifications, are great golmkgr!
I found this thread looking for information and I found a great forum full of content and to improve our VW.
Greetings and thank you very much.
We introduce myself properly in the forum.
Hernan.
PS: sorry for my English is pretty basic

Hi Herman, if you want to do this mod , you have to install the 361 relay first.
There are 2 ways to install power folding mirrors to your car. The first one is via 361 relay and the second one is with vw original windows motors with power folding function( original way). If you choose the first one( non original) , with 361 relay , then you can do my mod with remote folding mirrors.
Cheers
Nick

 

Thank you very much for responding!
Do not install my mirrors yet. No purchase order received yet.
I'm looking for information on how to connect everything. And his mod surprised me.
I read about the two ways to connect the mirrors and opt for the 361 relay for a lower cost item.
According to what I found recommend installing this way to avoid conflict in the control operation of the mirrors and one of them:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/instalacinrele361.jpg/

Where investors are placed two relay and a switch to override the relay 361 and allow it to be adjusted from the command mirrors door.
But asked if you have it installed well. Or I do it in a more appropriate and getting all the features to run perfectly.
Thank you again!

 

Thank you very much for responding!
Do not install my mirrors yet. No purchase order received yet.
I'm looking for information on how to connect everything. And his mod surprised me.
I read about the two ways to connect the mirrors and opt for the 361 relay for a lower cost item.
According to what I found recommend installing this way to avoid conflict in the control operation of the mirrors and one of them:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/instalacinrele361.jpg/

Where investors are placed two relay and a switch to override the relay 361 and allow it to be adjusted from the command mirrors door.
But asked if you have it installed well. Or I do it in a more appropriate and getting all the features to run perfectly.
Thank you again!

This diagram , show , how the 361 relay can work together with original window motors with power folding mirrors function.

I dont use those window motors .Just the 361 relay and the 79 or 206 relay.

 

Then he made the connection in this way for audi relay:
Relay ............................................. .................. Mirror connector (T12)
Pin 4 = 15th .............................................. .... .... fused +
Pin 5 = Motor for folding mirror (-) left / right ............. T12 / 1
Pin 6 = ............................................... .. ............ Earth (-)
Pin 8 = Motor for folding mirror (+) left / right ............. T12 / 2
Pin 12 = Switch for Folding Mirror ________________ Safe Signal (-)
Pin 14 = Switch for end of folding point (microswitch) in mirror left / right - T12 / 3

Mod and added its control gate.

If so, I look forward to the arrival of my mirrors to install in my variant.
Thanks Nick!

 

Then he made the connection in this way for audi relay:
Relay ............................................. .................. Mirror connector (T12)
Pin 4 = 15th .............................................. .... .... fused +
Pin 5 = Motor for folding mirror (-) left / right ............. T12 / 1
Pin 6 = ............................................... .. ............ Earth (-)
Pin 8 = Motor for folding mirror (+) left / right ............. T12 / 2
Pin 12 = Switch for Folding Mirror ________________ Safe Signal (-)
Pin 14 = Switch for end of folding point (microswitch) in mirror left / right - T12 / 3

Mod and added its control gate.

If so, I look forward to the arrival of my mirrors to install in my variant.
Thanks Nick!

The connections looks ok.Try the installation and you can post here your results.
Good Luck
Cheers
Nick

 

Thanks again for helping me.
I hope to have news soon.
Greetings!
Hernan.

 

Thanks again for helping me.
I hope to have news soon.
Greetings!
Hernan.

Ok mate , i am waiting your posts......

 

Ok just a few questions, I have a set of oem power folding mirrors from japan along with the 361 relay and the switch. So since I have the oem mirrors do I still have to use the 361 relay or is there another way of wiring them up? Also do you have a wiring diagram showing how to wire up the mirrors without the remote function just the power folding with the mirror switch? One more question, what gauge wire did you use and how did you connect the wires to the relays?

Sorry I have alot of questions haha

- Damien

 

Ok just a few questions, I have a set of oem power folding mirrors from japan along with the 361 relay and the switch. So since I have the oem mirrors do I still have to use the 361 relay or is there another way of wiring them up? Also do you have a wiring diagram showing how to wire up the mirrors without the remote function just the power folding with the mirror switch? One more question, what gauge wire did you use and how did you connect the wires to the relays?

Sorry I have alot of questions haha

- Damien

Hi , check out this link :
http://forum.vwgolf.pl/viewtopic.php?f=140&p=5495120
There are 2 ways . One with 361 relay but you can do your mirrors folding by remote only and the other is if you install the original window motors with folding function.Use google translate for the link.

 

http://forum.vwgolf.pl/viewtopic.php?f=140&p=5495120

 

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Hey nick can you possible draw a complete wiring diagram with your mod + the normal 361 mod diagram. Also can you please elaborate on where pin 12 off the relay hooks too. Also any pictures from your install would be amazing like where you tied everything in.

Cheers mate

Jonathan

 

[quote user="Filthwagen"]

Hey nick can you possible draw a complete wiring diagram with your mod + the normal 361 mod diagram. Also can you please elaborate on where pin 12 off the relay hooks too. Also any pictures from your install would be amazing like where you tied everything in.

Cheers mate

Jonathan

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Hi Jonathan , i see that you have already the 361 diagram .If you have done this work , then check my diagram with 361 and 79 relays.
For my mod you need to run a cable to pin 12 from 361 relay.
Your diagram is the first step.If you do this , then my diagram is the second step.
I dont have any photos , have passed 4 years from the day i made the mod.
If you have any questions fell free to ask me.
Cheers
Nick

 

So I keep what is hooked up to pin 12 in my diagram and just add your mod onto it also? There will be a few things connected to pin 12 correct or am I missing something. Thanks man

 

[quote user="Filthwagen"]

So I keep what is hooked up to pin 12 in my diagram and just add your mod onto it also? There will be a few things connected to pin 12 correct or am I missing something. Thanks man

[/quote]
You have right mate.To pin 12 there are conected 2 cables.Just match the 2 diagrams ..!..!..!..!
Cheers
Nick

 

Hi Nick!
Buy the command disarmament mirrors and when I find that is different circuit configuration.
Disarm the command that is standard on the car and there are some changes in the resistance and lacks an LED compared to the picture of his command mirrors.
I believe that it will be able to modify the original that I have the car, changing the mechanical part to rotate the knob to fold. And making his mod.
For your mod must take off or unsolder the circuit board. To cut or weld the track and the bridge?.
I show him a picture of my commands.
http://postimg.org/image/wegq2wq9j/

http://postimg.org/image/u18qv9bq9/

http://postimg.org/image/p6twfks51/

http://postimg.org/image/xxcdsuohv/