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Anyone got any views on these?

Going to see one tommorow. Free's up money. I did look at a couple of 306's but they were rubbish, run down and high mileage. I'm sacrificing the MPG for a 200bhp beast! Well I'm gonna go look anyway...

Views? Bad choice? Seem cheap for what they are?
 

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Not trying to burst your bubble but i thought the reason why you sold
your V5 was to get a car which was cheap to buy and run, and i doubt
the mpg on the T4 will be great considering it to a diesel which were
your initial plans afaik.

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The reason for selling the V5 was because I couldnt sell the golf and with this house purchase coming up I needed to get rid of at least one. Didnt want to let the V5 go really, would have prefered the golf to go.

As for the mpg factor, yes, it is a big factor, but at the moment, would like to free up money to be able to furnish the place. That means going for a car around 2k.

Having had a look at the diesels I can get they are all VERY high mileage, your talking 150k plus or are over 10 years old. I can get a 1998 escort diesel cheap though with lower miles, but just not my kind of thing at all.

So after looking at the battered diesels I can get and actually seeing them, I decided to start looking at petrols again. I can get lower mileage models of the same year. Was looking through auto trader at Mundano's, 406's etc etc and then saw the S40.

It's around 30mpg. The golf is on paper, 32mpg. I wouldnt get rid of the golf if I didnt have to (dont have to but house more important at the mo). The 200bhp, 7.1 secs, leather and toys stared at me and said 'have me'.

I just wondered why they are so cheap. Surprisingly, insurance is ?100 cheaper than I am paying for the golf at the moment...weird!
 

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What about a rover diesel ?? not taking the wee wee either, as they're
cheap and pretty reliable afaik, go for the gsdi iirc on the 400 model
as these came with leathers, ac, etc....

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I had a Rover 420GSI.

I will NEVER own another rover again. It had 52k on the clock and spent more time in the garage than it did on the road. I did do 30k miles in a year, had 64k on it when I sold it.

It was quite honestly terrible.

- Sputtered like mad and sounded like a tractor until it had warmed up, looked like a nodding dog when first driving it as it was all over the place.
- Drivers window did up via the electric window, but the top of the window often used to sit outside of the door! Nice!
- Rev counter stopped working
- Needed a whole new exhaust system after only 15k miles
- Was rusting (7 years old at the time)
- Cruise control decided not to work and then decided it might turn itself on at random points
- Clutch went at 56k
- Wheel bearings went around 60k
- Radiator rusted like mad and needed a new one fitted
- Interior plastics cracks
- Boot decided to not pop up in the end.

Nice car, especially at 64k!
 

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I sold it for ?700, traded it in for my first golf (W reg 2.0). 3 months later I got a letter from a solicitors stating that I was still the registered owner and the car had been dumped on someones ground etc with the keys left in it.

They couldn't start it even with a new battery so I had to move it. Unless of course I had got rid. Found that highly amusing!
 

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My Volvo was an excellent car - it was a T4 in all but the turbo as it had the full sport suspension, leather, sunroof, all the toys etc etc. No breakdowns and handled beautifully if a little harsh on the ride.

My knowledge is that the T4 has a little torque steer, but no different to other cars with 200 bhp through the front wheels. One thing to check, like the Golf is the cambelt change - 70k I think?

If I had your budget then I would.....
 

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This car shares it's platform with the Mitsubishi Carisma.

Based on that information make your decision. I suggest there is a good reason these cars appear to offer a lot for little money. You can do better but I'd imagine you wouldn't be that interested in what I'd buy on your budget. Still, nuts to that, here's one

1998 M Reg NISSAN 200 SX 2.0
2 Doors, Manual, Coupe, Petrol, 45,000 miles, Metallic Silver, MOT-03-2007, 4 Owners. ABS, Adjustable seats, Adjustable steering column/wheel, Air conditioning, Alloy wheels, Anti theft system, Central locking, Cloth upholstery, Climate Control, Colour coding - Body, Driver airbag, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Limited slip differential, Locking wheel nuts, Lumbar support, Metallic paintwork, Pearlescent paint, Power assisted steering, Remote locking, Spoiler, Sports seats, Tinted glass.Insurance Group:18, Mobile Number - 07947 624854 ?1,995.

or even

1998 R Reg HONDA CIVIC 1.8i VTi 5dr STOKE-ON-TRENT.
5 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 84,000 miles, Metallic Red. 2 Airbags, Service history, ABS, Alloy wheels, Central locking, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Power assisted steering, Sunroof, Tinted glass. Direct Partexchange Car. Offers. ?2,000.

Beech Motor Company

Dealer's WebsiteDealer's Location

Tel: 01782 777188

Anyway, enjoy your Carisma.
 

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handled beautifully if a little harsh on the ride
Muhahahaaaa, a joke right ! I had a S40 as a company car a few years back, granted it didn't have the sports suspension, but it rolled like a barrel in the corners, and had very vague steering and controls. The seats were supremely comfortable though.
 

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I like the suggestion of the Honda as an alternative.

Spencert - a car can handle well even if the body rolls, don't confuse stiff with handling. On the V40 the sports suspension was like night and day so yes without it you would've been severely disdavantaged........[;)]
 

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That's rather subjective..... To me handling encompasses the entire package, a car that has an unnervingly high level of body roll doesn't instil much confidence and imo couldn't be considered to have good handling. Perhaps you had the optional fat low profile tyres on, and it's you that's confusing grip with handling [;)]
 

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As long as it does go round corners, for that budget I'm not to fussed. Can imagine the orque steer being a problem and can also imagine body roll being a problem. BUT. 99% of the time this won't be affecting me, I will be behind a load of cars doing 40mph! I think I can put up with the bodyroll for the 200 horses it offers me. Give me 6 months with the car and I'll be complaining about body roll.

As for the carisma. Lets face it its not a carisma. If it is, so be it. You could say that the carisma is moddeled on the T4, does that make the carisma a better car? Just like we say the Golf is based on the Audi. We don't say the golf is based on a skoda.

Sammyboy, the Nissan I wouldn't go for, the Honda, yes, I haven't looked into them so will have a look.

My buggest problem is going to a dealer and saying I have a Golf, worth around ?4800 trade in, can we do a deal on that 2k car!
 

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Well thats that over and done with anyway.

3 dealers and non of them will trade in a higher value car against buying a lower value car. Argh!
 

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My Aunt has a S40 but only the 1.8i Sport. Utterly reliable, superb seats, crashy ride in towns but excels on the motorways, high standard spec, amazes me with 200+K on the clock (R-plater)and still feels new. Servicing is great but a bit more ???. Very impressive machine.

Have you considered a Saab 900/9-3? Great turbo cars and I would consider one over the Volvo. (dunno current s/h prices)
 

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My Aunt has a S40 but only the 1.8i Sport. Utterly reliable, superb seats, crashy ride in towns but excels on the motorways, high standard spec, amazes me with 200+K on the clock (R-plater)and still feels new. Servicing is great but a bit more ???. Very impressive machine.

Have you considered a Saab 900/9-3? Great turbo cars and I would consider one over the Volvo. (dunno current s/h prices)
Dont personally like the older Saab's. Like the new 9-3, doubt I could get one for around 2k though.

Good stuff on the volvo though.

Shame I can't just go and trade my car off against it really! Theres only 39 on autotrader in the country of the T4's! This one is local to me so could have been a good catch. The bloke said 'Sorry mate, golf's are 2 a penny, I could pick your's up for ?1500 in auction.....hmmm!!! Get me to an auction if thats the case!!

All 3 dealers said no, non of them asked me what I was willing to accept for it. So that gave me an idea that no one is interested. Shame realy as what I would be willing to accept they could make over a grand on easily.
 

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That's rather subjective..... To me handling encompasses the entire package, a car that has an unnervingly high level of body roll doesn't instil much confidence and imo couldn't be considered to have good handling. Perhaps you had the optional fat low profile tyres on, and it's you that's confusing grip with handling [;)]
Nope - std 15"s...... good point though, having never driven one without the sports suspension I can't comment on the un-nerving bit!
 

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Did you know you can get at least 245bhp from the T4 if remapped [6]

And someones coming to look at my golf on Wednesday!

Been on the volvo forums having a gander around!
 
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