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Hello.. are there any differences you can see between the GTI's?

other than the badge as there's lots of 1.8t's with silver i's

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from my experience, there aren't that many 2.0's badged as GTI, normally just 2.0, although I'm sure

I'll get flamed by lots of people saying that aint true.

1.8T's are actually a lot different visually, they sit closer to the ground on lower suspension, the

wheels are easily identifiable compared to the 2.0 being both a bigger wheel and a wider profile tyre

(erm, I think!) If you can peek inside, the 1.8T should have recaro's (or sports seats on newer models)

and wood trim compared to the standard seats and trim of the 2.0

Can't think of anything one thing that is completely obvious though. Once you seen a few it is easy to

tell them apart.
 

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2.0 GTI has sports seats James...

You will usually find 2.0 GTIs dont have a 3rd headrest at the back.

People cant tell the difference with mine now; but I did a few mods to make sure of that [;)]
 

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The non turbo (1.8 or 2.0) are 'GT' spec and have stiffened suspension and 15" Avus II alloys. GT spec cars come in TDi's too (red D or red DI).

The 1.8 T has stiffened and lowered suspension and 16" Montreal wheels
 

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There never was a 2.0 litre GTI, it was just a VW badge engineering job. Some dealers changed the factory 2.0 badge for a GTI one, some didn't. All 2.0 GTI's and the 115 and 130 PD's are ordered as Golf Highlines (take a look at the VW data sticker in the boot - no mention of the word GTI).
 

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*sigh...

There never was a 2.0 litre GTI, it was just a VW badge engineering job

Here we go again....

VW decided to name the car the 2.0 GTI in this country, like it or not! it was an affordable alternative to the "real" GTI which lower insurance and better fuel ecconomy; and people bought them!

I am not protecting my car by any means, although I think its a great!

If you think it is not a GTI then look at all the stats on cars in the country, databases; insurance companies, DVLA, Parkers pricing, etc etc! - that is justification.

It does do my head in when this comes into question. The "GTI" is just a badge and they included the 2.0 in that badging in this country, I think it is bloody clever marketing and were able to capitalise on this.

The sticker in the boot is done at production, it is not their resposibilty to "label" the car as such, that is done by the UK affiliate. Not really hard to change a badge is it?

One big invisible difference with the 2.0GTI and the 1.8T is the insurance bracket [;)]

In conclusion the 2.0 GTI does exsist, i'll show you if you insist?
 

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Nope, the 2.0 is not a GTI - it has exactly the same handling package as the 1.4 and 1.6 'cooking' models. It was a terrible VW UK marketing decision which cost VW the MkIV GTI's credibility in the UK. Had VW UK marketed this car as what it is, i.e. a nicely equipped 2 litre Golf then I'm sure it would have been taken on face value as a good 2.0 hatchback and compared accordingly. But it ain't no GTI!
 

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Bungle shoudld zip it, sorry bad joke. i'm with Oxford. The 2.0 was a GTI but obviously not a HOT one. GTI was more about trim levels rather than the ideal of a GTI in my opinion. To put it in Civic terms it's like a Type-S and a Type-R, both pretty similar just one is aimed at a more focused driver than the other.

Going back to the original question the visual diffs are the 1.8T has 16" wheels, a thrid head rest, sports suspension as standard and a different badge (ducks! [:D])

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Someone that agrees!!! the Type-S is a good example!

Anyway, when I get the latest 2.0 GTI then no-one can tell me that is not a GTI! lol
 

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Another difference - I think I'm right in saying that the 2.0 has a front arm rest as standard, which was only an option on the 1.8T.
 

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With Oxford on this one (obviously since I also have a 2.0)

Wasn't aware of the armrest option beerboy - learn something new everyday. Personally, I find my armrest a bit of a pain when trying to get somehting i from the back seats as it's always int he upright position - never use it apart from storing sun glasses[8D]

Anyway, I'll say the wheels and a slightly noticable lower suspension if you have a keen eye. Dunno about inside so much. I thought the rear headrest was only for say V5's (and up), but i'd go with what the other guy says on this.

BTW, my car has 2.0 GTI on the back (or is it GTI 2.0 now - think it is) - this what you have Oxford?? I have only seen one other car with this. They seem even rarer than just having 2.0 there?
 

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Forgot to say, one of the reasons i bought the 2.0 was insurance. The missus is learning to drive in it (test in 2 weeks!!!) and no one would let her near the 1.8T. There was only 4 companies country wide that would even entertain the 2.0 that we ended up buying. (She had her heart set on a Golf or an A3 from start - I know, cheaper with a pet!) And that's just her as second driver and me aged 28, driving for over 10 years with no prangs.

Apart from that, the 2.0 was cheaper, better fuel (some say!) and still a really nice motor IMO. I was in a focus the other day and realised just how nice the golf is compared to those spaceship interior type cars (read Focus, Astra - especially the coupe which just ruins the car!)

Maybe next car i'll look at something more powerful etc. But for us (well the missus), 10 secs to 60 and 120ish tops is about all we need.
 

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Like you Craig, I dont use that arm rest! lol

I had my car dropped -35mm and you honestly cannot tell any difference unless you inspect every detail.

My car USED to have 2.0 GTI on the back, however I removed the 2.0 part and re-ligned the GTI badge level with the GOLF one and it looks much better IMO. You could try the same? I just got some new adesive and used dental floss to take them off!

I also got the 2.0 on the basis of insurance, I always wanted a black GTI and being 22 there was no way I could afford a 1.8t insurance, they would not even insure me till I was 25 anyway! lol

- it has been a great comprimse and a sound car for me, I have not looked back.

Within the next year (24 on Sunday) I think I will change to something more powerful, but ONLY if my financail position changes through work.

Craig, have a look at my car in the members rides, I have done a few mods and it does make a nice little difference...

http://www.uk-mkvs.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=49835
 
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