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Since the search function just having none of it i'm afriad i may have to bring up an old stone.

My car is fun but seeing my mate in his 4mo whip a Cooper S today has me wondering about a chip. I dont really want a remap due to the fact that I wont get the best from it without a new turbo. I just want some good power (4mo-esque) and a smile on my face.

So it's down to Revo and Upsolute in my eyes. So what, apart from price, is the major differences? I know how they are administered is very different but i'm going to be keeping this car for a long while and probably selling it to someone on here so being able to reverse it isnt really an issue.

I've a veeeerry late 99 AGU so i'd be interested if anyone has driven a Revo'd one and Upsoluted one back to back.

Look forward to your input!

David (has cash, will use it[:D])
 

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REVO and Upsolute are remaps albeit generic ones. I think the differences between them will be minimal but I'm sure I've heard somewhere that Upsolute is better for the earlier non-dbw engines. Maybe some of the petrol boys can give more clarification on this.
 

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Im sure the only reason that Upsolute is better for NonDBW will be due to price.

I don't think you would notice much difference between the two David, go for Upsolute and put the extra towards a Cotton Green filter or Forge DV. Im not too sure if you have either.
 

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REVO are the only company able to serial tune an AGU 1.8T... nobody else can due to the ECU. Upsolute offer the better bang for buck as i think there is very little difference in the two for power, yet Upsolute will cost you ?305, and REVO ?499+Vat...
 

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Quote: posted by GaryM on 23/12/2004 20:15:23

...put the extra towards a Cotton Green filter or Forge DV. Im not too sure if you have either.

Havent got the Forge but I got the GC Filter when I had the Milltek installed. What would the Forge actually give me apart from a more robust DV?

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Chris, I think Revo is ?399+VAT for NonDBW.

Quite a difference when you work it out, Upsolute gets my vote everytime.
 

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My mate has Upsolute on his 99 NON-DBW

Compared to my 2000-DBW with revo

There is not much difference. apart from about a few hundred quid, but who's counting the pennies?
 

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Anyone got contact details for Simon Coe? I think i have a January job for him!

--- Just mailed Simon about it for a Jan appointment [:D] ---
 

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Hmm just noticed these figures:

After Revo - 192bhp 225ft/lbs

After Upsolute - 190bhp 199ft/lbs

To me that is a stark difference. Anyone got a RR chart of each on a NDBW car?

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With non DBW cars there isn't much in it in terms of extra poke from any particular chip/remap. I originally had the APR map on my AGU when it first came out, i have since found ou tho that the APR non dbw code was written without the use of a boost gauge as they werent really interested... [:(] My car only peaked at under 1 bar and fell down (like a hooker who just got hit in the stomach by some fat guy with sores on his face!!!) to around 10 psi at 5k ish. All in all it made a difference but as i realised other people were just faster than me. I went for Revo about 12 months ago and was very happy with the results i got. Went down the their HQ because the APR needed removing and they were sceptical of their dealers messing it up. Really nice bunch of lads the revo gang. I got the car RR'd at stealth shortly after and acheived 202 bhp and 236 lb/ft! Pretty impressive for an earlier car, but i do have all the bolts ons. I have since fitted a ko3 sport and an MBC to override the revo code. results are very sucessful. I havnt had the car rr'd again but it is defo more powerful as I'm seeing of certain cars i could before!

If i were you i really wouldn't know what to go with, if its price then Up is great and Simon C has superb reports on this forum. It does appear that Revo gives a tiny bit more but it comes at a cost...That extra 25 lb/ft is the mid range peak of boost. Probably down to the revo code running a few more psi?
 

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Cheers Tim, some damn good advice there. APR can go do one now and any time in the future. I think I'll just suck it up and go for a REVO when I get it done. It sounds like that is the best option regardless of the price
 

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Wasn't there an issue with upsolute remapped AGU's having an ease-off "snatch" issue?

Was this ever resolved? What was the cause? All i got from the old thread was that changing the DV didn't make much difference.

Its the only thing putting me off the upsolute remap for my 2000 AGU 1.8T.
 

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Quote: posted by vedhead on 23/12/2004 21:17:24

Anyone got contact details for Simon Coe? I think i have a January job for him!

--- Just mailed Simon about it for a Jan appointment [:D] ---

Good stuff.. think I might be a february appointment, David [!][:D]
 

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I got upsloute on my 99 agu last month

And wow what a difference it makes, Ive never felt the so called ease off snatch..!!

For the money it has to be the upsolute (and simon comes to you)
 

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My 1.8T is upsoluted and knocked out 201bhp and 245 lbft of torque on Stealth's rolling road. It has a forge DV but no other mods. Simon was really good, I would certainly recommend him.

If you go to REVO I understand that there is a remap trial that is free and lasts on the car for 6 hours if you wanted to try it out.
 
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