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Just got me one of these as the mounting brackets on my stock system died, snapping the flexi pipe.

http://www.toyosports.co.uk/golf-mk4-16-stainless-steel-exhaust-cat-back-3-round-13899-696-p.asp

Had a search about and couldn't find anything about them, well not for the golf anyway. Its cheaper than a mild steel pattern replacement, so thought it was worth a bash. Having it fitted monday (as the flexi pipe needs replacing anyway) So i'll get some pictures up. Looks amazing quality for the money, and its fairly beefy, the picture doesn't do it justice. Paid £138 posted, as for some reason they have them listed on A well known auction site ( [;)] ) for £129 (and some for £149, exactly the same system, which is confusing haha). Just wondering if anyone has and previous experience, and as they aren't mentioned on this forum, according to the search, thought I would bring them to folks attention. I'll let you know what they are like come monday, but for the money, it looks hard to go wrong!

Well, Cheers for any replies! hope someone finds this useful.

Craig

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Not atall what I was expecting, Exhaust is really rather quiet, a shade louder than a standard system, but with a much nicer, deeper note. Hard to hear while driving, but bystanders say it sounds much nicer, more like a standard Focus st170 exhaust note. If you're looking for subtle, this is probably a good option. Had to have my front pipe extended, but it would appear that it isn't stock anyway, But that's something to consider, you may have to have it fitted somewhere with welding equipment. Again, that could be down to my car. Overall, i'm pleased with the exhaust. Engine seems to produce more torque low down in the revs as well, but i did go from an exhaust that essentially ended at the flexi pipe. Well worth the money, but if you want loud, Look else where.

Will get a video of the note up tomorrow :)

Craig

Exhaust is not as loud as appears in video, although the note is accurate. To gauge the sound, the loud knocking before engine start is me checking neutral. which you can barely hear from inside the car. Enjoy.

Another little update:

Exhaust has got much louder over the last week and a bit (and 7-800 miles) Sounding really rather nice now, will try and do another video from the same place, for a comparison.

Craig
 

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Oh yeah, I was under no illusion that it would haha. Can expect 4-6 I presume Cant be arsed putting it on a dyno, and I don't have a working stock system to compare with.
 

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Not atall what I was expecting, Exhaust is really rather quiet, a shade louder than a standard system, but with a much nicer, deeper note. Hard to hear while driving, but bystanders say it sounds much nicer, more like a standard Focus st170 note. If you're looking for subtle, this is probably a good option. Had to have my front pipe extended, but it would appear that it isn't stock anyway, But that's something to consider, you may have to have it fitted somewhere with welding equipment. Again, that could be down to my car. Overall, i'm pleased with the exhaust. Engine seems to produce more torque low down in the revs as well, but i did go from an exhaust that essentially ended at the flexi pipe. Well worth the money, but if you want loud, Look else where.

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Just been brought to my attention about the exhaust bedding in, does this usually make them louder? Thought they got quieter cause of all the carbon build up? We shall see.
 

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Just been brought to my attention about the exhaust bedding in, does this usually make them louder? Thought they got quieter cause of all the carbon build up? We shall see.
Hey dude,

In my experience, two stainless on small (1.1 and 1.6) engined petrol cars and know now the TDi below the exhausts have always got louder! When I first got the exhaust on my 1.6 (16v 206) it was quieter than the blowing standard exhaust that was on there. A few months down the line and it sounded sweet!

The exhaust note, in my opinion doesn't settle down entierly until a good six/nine months after fitting.
 

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Just been brought to my attention about the exhaust bedding in, does this usually make them louder? Thought they got quieter cause of all the carbon build up? We shall see.
Hey dude,

In my experience, two stainless on small (1.1 and 1.6) engined petrol cars and know now the TDi below the exhausts have always got louder! When I first got the exhaust on my 1.6 (16v 206) it was quieter than the blowing standard exhaust that was on there. A few months down the line and it sounded sweet!

The exhaust note, in my opinion doesn't settle down entierly until a good six/nine months after fitting.
Yeah, this is really very quiet though, there is no noticeable exhaust note, even through tunnels. Sounds nice on video, but i dont know if thats just because its on a video haha. There is a low pitch burble up to about 2.5k revs, then after that its silent =/ cant here it over the engine, and i have taken the induction kit off, so it has the stock silenced air box. I'm sure the stock system was louder haha.
 

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Just bought one of these to try on my 1.8T :) I'm not usually a fan of teh cheap stuff, but it's 304 stainless, looks OK, and hopefully shouldn't be too loud. got to be worth a shot over my dying standard catback.

Will let you know how it sounds on a 1.8T soon!
 

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Just bought one of these to try on my 1.8T :) I'm not usually a fan of teh cheap stuff, but it's 304 stainless, looks OK, and hopefully shouldn't be too loud. got to be worth a shot over my dying standard catback.

Will let you know how it sounds on a 1.8T soon!
Hate to break this to you, but as far as i know, they only do an exhaust for the Normally aspirated (non turbo) 1.8. I could be wrong, it could be the same system, but someone mentioned that before. Worst case, wait for it to arrive and then match it up to the old system, see if it fits. Thats what i would do, on the off chance that it will fit anyway. Would be good to see what other peoples sound like, see if i can get mine checked out as its not making any noise.

Cheers

ps http://www.toyosports.co.uk/golf-mk4-18-stainless-steel-exhaust-cat-back-3-round-13899-723-p.asp

Says for 1.8 125 bhp? if its already been sent out, then just wait and see i guess.
 

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Mine wasn't a perfect fit, but my local power flow dealer was able to modify it, if mounting brackets are the problem, might also need an extension from the down pipe. Just a couple of things from personal experience.
 

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cheers for your help mate.

I was aware that they only list it for the 1.8 n/a, but I called toyosports this morning and they confirmed that the pipe is a full 2.5'' diameter from the cat back, only reducing the the very front to mate to the 1.8 n/a exhaust.

I also anticipated that it might be a little short on fitment, so I've ordered a metre of 2.5'' stainless pipe with a flared end. I'll use this to cut out the short 2.25'' section on the end of my decat, then trim the toyosports back to where it's a full 2.5'' and join it up there.

That way I should have a full 2.5'' system. providing the boxes are straight through, and the main bore is 2.5mm, it shouldn't be a problem that it's listed for 1.8 n/a. a free flowing box is just that....

the fitment is identical on the 1.8/1.8T in terms of hangers and axle fitment.

Is yours really quiet now then? I just want something a little more free flowing, with a visable tailpipe. I see yours sat fairly low. Was it modified to sit that low, or did it sit like that as standard? I'm hoping to get mine sitting a little higher in a bumper cut out
 

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Mine is fairly quiet, but Zeldos had one fitted on his 1.4 and he said it was louder than mine. If you have a powerflow dealer near you they can cut and weld it to how you want it basically. Obviously if the stock fit is fine there is no need to bother. Mine could have been silenced by the guys at powerflow for all i know lol. Now i think about it, i think it was modified to sit that low, as i didn't want too much taken out of the valance... All i can say is wait and see! Cant wait to see / hear what yours is like. Im half tempted to open it up and see if i can take some baffles out. Been told that the center silencer is straight through and the backbox is muffled. Hope this is of some help :)

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OK, so I've got the exhaust, and it SHOULD be pretty good, although it does need modifying a bit more than planned annoyingly!

The boxes are both 2.5'' bore, as is the pipe between them.

Annoyingly, the link from the cat to the centre box leaves the box as 2.5'', but starts to reduce almost straight away down to 2'' for the 1.8 n/a cat.

Not a huge problem, although a little annoying. I had hoped it'd have at least 2-3'' at 2.5 before the reduction, so I could just chop the reduction off and join it with a sleeve.

As it is, I've got a length of 2.5'' pipe with an expansion on one end to fit over my decat, and I'll be chopping off the toyosports system at the centre box, and having a new front pipe welded onto it.

Should still end up with the full cat back system in 2.5'' for under £160!
 

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Are both of you're boxes straight through then? As i know for certain that my back box is baffled, but i believe the center silencer to be straight through?

Cheers, Craig
 

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I don't knwo if the back box is straight through or not yet, what I mean by it being 2.5'', is that it's definitely deisgned for a 2.5'' system as the inlet and outlet at the box are both 2.5''

Another problem I noticed this evening when measuring up for fitment tomorrow, is that the tailpipe appears to be a bit too short really,. I don't think it'll come back far enough to clear my bumper!

Ah well, as I'm going to longlife for some welding I'll take a look at the Tailpipes they offer whilst I'm there!
 
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