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Well Im going to need new discs and pads soon, so Im thinking of upgrading to a bigger brake set-up seen as Im going to be spending money on them anyway! The problem being the car is a 1.4. From what I understand that means I need to change the hub to fit bigger brakes, i.e. from a gti or similar.

I've done a search but can't really find much information about the 1.4 and upgrading... are there any 1.4 owners here carried it out? How hard was it, and is it worth it???

Cheers, any help or information appreciated!!

Andy [:)]
 

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Would bigger hubs be needed on a 1.6 as well, as I was thinking of upgrading mine soon but never knew anything about this?
i dont know anything about this either, always wondered [*-)]

would never do it on my 1.6 though as my brakes are pretty good anyway. and not enough power in the car to warrent doing it IMHO

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Andy, that 84.6bhp is really getting to your head. :p

As others said you`d need differant hubs, back plates etc... Not worth it IMO. You could always go a little more stylish with some standard vented / grooved discs and coloured pads like the EBC ones. Just a thought [y]

P.s your car sounded ace when i let you past last night [:)]
 

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Andy, that 84.6bhp is really getting to your head. :p

As others said you`d need differant hubs, back plates etc... Not worth it IMO. You could always go a little more stylish with some standard vented / grooved discs and coloured pads like the EBC ones. Just a thought [y]

P.s your car sounded ace when i let you past last night [:)]
agreed about the discs,

im i right in saying you may also need a bigger servo????? [:S] i dont know lol

but you could be lookign at way over ?1000 if you want to do it all correct i think?
 

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Yup

you have to change the compleat HUB as the 1.6 caliper carier is part of the casting and cant be removed

either Gti hubs or V6 hubs are needed[:^)]

come to think of it [:D] i have a set of them here[:p] (PLUG)

60 quid compleat with bearings and ABS sensors

and then you can have any brake setup you chose[Y]

dependant on wheel size

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I say bite his hand off n buy them mate, get the brakes from that guy on here (about ?250 for TT calipers, carriers, discs n pads, 312mm ones, they WILL stop u, lol)

So just over ?300 all in, go for it mate [Y] one less thing to do if u do do that engine swap u talked about yesterday.
 

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Andy, that 84.6bhp is really getting to your head. :p

As others said you`d need differant hubs, back plates etc... Not worth it IMO. You could always go a little more stylish with some standard vented / grooved discs and coloured pads like the EBC ones. Just a thought [y]

P.s your car sounded ace when i let you past last night [:)]
agreed about the discs,

im i right in saying you may also need a bigger servo????? [:S] i dont know lol

but you could be lookign at way over ?1000 if you want to do it all correct i think?
It would only be 1000 QUID if you wanted the BREMBO GT brakes

and i hope to up grad my 4 pots to the AUDI RS4 6 pots with 380mm discs soon YUM YUM

the breke SERVO is the same on al the ranges of golf mk4?s mate so no need to change that

and even if you did i have one of them ALSO FROM A V6 [;)]
 

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i stand corrected then lol

i think Andy (dentreform) has enough gear in his house to build several cars lol

trust me the discs and callipers on my dads turbo are big enough, go for them as the rs4s are just tooooooo huge. lol
 

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LOL

you wait till i get them behind those deep dish rims on the A6 Hahahahahahahahahahahah YUM YUM

i will not know which car to drive[6]
 

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Andy, that 84.6bhp is really getting to your head. :p

As others said you`d need differant hubs, back plates etc... Not worth it IMO. You could always go a little more stylish with some standard vented / grooved discs and coloured pads like the EBC ones. Just a thought [y]

P.s your car sounded ace when i let you past last night [:)]
He he [:D] I need to replace them anyways, so Im thinking just go for upgrading!!! Especially seen as the current brakes look miniscule behind the 19's!!! [:D]

Cheers for the noise comment! Im well happy how it sounds for a 1.4! [:D] Did you hear the guy doing the rolling road (not Jody) who thought it was a 1.8T? Lol [:D]

Dent Reform... PM on its way to you... [:D]
 

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I say bite his hand off n buy them mate, get the brakes from that guy on here (about ?250 for TT calipers, carriers, discs n pads, 312mm ones, they WILL stop u, lol)

So just over ?300 all in, go for it mate [Y] one less thing to do if u do do that engine swap u talked about yesterday.
Ah, another forum name put to a face!! [:D] EBC disks and pads are going to be quite a lot of ??? anyways... so Im thinking I will upgrade... Good advice! [Y][:D]

Plus thinking about it, I had EBC green stuff pads, with EBC drilled and grooved disks on my last car... and they were crap considering the cost!!!
 

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Ok, well I think I've made a deal for a full set of calipers/carriers/discs/and pads front and rear from a quattro TT, so the fronts will be improving to 312mm. My next question being, is it worth paying more for the rears too, and what will need changing to fit these to a 1.4?? Anyone got experience with the back wheels and brake upgrades?? Does the hub need changing too?

Or saying this, are the 225bhp rear brakes larger than the standard on mine at the moment... I should imagine so but its worthwhile checking hey!

Cheers, Andy

EDIT: just found this post: Clicky

So Im guessing its going to have to be new hubs front and rear... Lol... Thats answers my questions anyways!
 

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You should only need front hubs lol

the rear wil then be as far as i know fitted with a small mettal plate on the caliper carier to make the space for the 256mm rear vented discs

as yours are 9m solid ones
 

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Like a spacer actually between the caliper carrier and the hub you mean? To like, move the caliper carrier out, and hence enable the caliper to clear the bigger discs?? Lol [:)]

Cheers DentReform, you've been a great help! [Y]

Just out of interest, what would people say was a good price for front and rear calipers, carriers, discs and pads from the quattro TT? Just so I know Im not overpaying...
 

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Like a spacer actually between the caliper carrier and the hub you mean? To like, move the caliper carrier out, and hence enable the caliper to clear the bigger discs?? Lol [:)]

Cheers DentReform, you've been a great help! [Y]

Just out of interest, what would people say was a good price for front and rear calipers, carriers, discs and pads from the quattro TT? Just so I know Im not overpaying...
Got in one mate[;)]
 

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Im paying ?150 for the lot... finding out about condition as I write here! The guy is local to me, so I'll be able to check them out before parting with any cash anyways, which is always good!!! [:D]
 

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Just picked up my new brake set-up tonight and well chuffed! From a 2003 TT quattro with 30K on the clock.... Some surface rust on the disks is about all wrong with them, and of course that will come straight off with a bit of a spruce up!

So after some black hammerite applied should look ace when fitted! [:D]

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After christmas I'll get some new front hubs sorted, and the spacers for the back calipers; and then I'll fit them! Can't wait! And still can't believe the price! [:D]

Andy [:)]
 
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