The 'Ring
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I'm new around here and the last thing I want to do is step in and sound like some boring, I don't break any rules type but....
I hope nobody has any idea about their lap times. Unless anyone has been to a private event, ie not a normal public toll day, timing is banned and for good reason.
Anyone that has driven the Nordschleife (I have, not in a VW though) will know there is enough to be thinking about without what the time is and should I be pushing faster.
I'm not saying don't go and have fun, but keeping it light, it's an evil track and it can get you! - you need to drive within you and your cars limits and still hopefully have fun.
I recommend anyone planning a trip to fully read up here. What to do in a nemergency, do's and don'ts, pictures, the nearest petrol station (also where to buy your stickers) etc.
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/
Whether you take the advice or not is up to you, but fact is the 'ring is a difficult circuit so you could not compare lap times on cars anyway - it's all down to driver.
Regards
Graham
I hope nobody has any idea about their lap times. Unless anyone has been to a private event, ie not a normal public toll day, timing is banned and for good reason.
Anyone that has driven the Nordschleife (I have, not in a VW though) will know there is enough to be thinking about without what the time is and should I be pushing faster.
I'm not saying don't go and have fun, but keeping it light, it's an evil track and it can get you! - you need to drive within you and your cars limits and still hopefully have fun.
I recommend anyone planning a trip to fully read up here. What to do in a nemergency, do's and don'ts, pictures, the nearest petrol station (also where to buy your stickers) etc.
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/
Whether you take the advice or not is up to you, but fact is the 'ring is a difficult circuit so you could not compare lap times on cars anyway - it's all down to driver.
Regards
Graham
I do tend to agree with Graham. I went round for the first time a few months back and it was awesome fun but people asked me what times I was getting and I purposefully didn't record any times as I didn't want to end up pushing myself beyond my driving capability.
That said I have a MK4 which has been remapped and it was great fun and I think it handled the track admirably.
That said I have a MK4 which has been remapped and it was great fun and I think it handled the track admirably.
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Hi there
I have a 2.8 V6 204PS (FWD) that started life as a 1.6 16V 105PS and will be doing the ring in the next few weels so i will give you all a shout with a vid included of how it handles and what it goes like
I have a 2.8 V6 204PS (FWD) that started life as a 1.6 16V 105PS and will be doing the ring in the next few weels so i will give you all a shout with a vid included of how it handles and what it goes like
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I'm off to the ring on Friday.... you can't have camera of any type on the ring now [
] whilst driving anyway....unless ya gonna break the rules [] .....but will aslo let ya know what its like....I have a 1.8T and done little to support it as a track car but like said above....ya aint gonna be racing!! I'm just goning for the drive across and a few laps....
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OUCH!!!
looking forward to my trip now......might be going a little slow than fisrt expected!!
hope you get it all sorted soon. were you ok after that other than a hurting wallet!!?
looking forward to my trip now......might be going a little slow than fisrt expected!!
hope you get it all sorted soon. were you ok after that other than a hurting wallet!!?
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I've just got back from the ring last night - had a superb time.
I've a Revo'd AUM and it performed brilliantly - no faults at all. I've 17" TT alloys (much nicer ride than the 18's I had on before the trip) and lowered 35mm.
I didn't time my laps (you want to concentrate damn hard...) but passengers recorded my first lap on the camcorder. I got a startling 14 mins on my first lap!!
Cheeses eh? I know it's slow but with passengers and a busy track I just didn't want to tank it round!
My later laps improved greatly on my first lap but we didn't time each one. My last lap I managed to overtake quite a bit and a few bikes too, so chuffed with that!
My top tips....
Michael
I've a Revo'd AUM and it performed brilliantly - no faults at all. I've 17" TT alloys (much nicer ride than the 18's I had on before the trip) and lowered 35mm.
I didn't time my laps (you want to concentrate damn hard...) but passengers recorded my first lap on the camcorder. I got a startling 14 mins on my first lap!!
Cheeses eh? I know it's slow but with passengers and a busy track I just didn't want to tank it round!
My later laps improved greatly on my first lap but we didn't time each one. My last lap I managed to overtake quite a bit and a few bikes too, so chuffed with that!
My top tips....
- Take your licence, AND insurance docs (inc. green card), and V5 too. Ze Germans had a right go at the border when I tried to explain that I didn't have my registration details with me...."Why can I find not your car name on your papers??" Er....That's my licence...
- It's 16 Euros a lap....but buy the 4 lap version at 56e. 8 laps are 108e (but too much for me)
- Get your ring stickers from the garage down the road (right hand side about 1 mile on the main road from the ring)
- Keep to the right all the way around until you're comfortable - There are some twits on the ring. Some drivers even kept their right indicator on all the way round.
- Watch out for those pesky bikers...Christ they're fast and come from NOWHERE...
- Don't try to thrash it round - you need to drive Golfy home again! 2 accidents in my days there. One Civic TR that came off badly....Very. Other a chap staying at our hotel. His bike was a little narrower than it should have been.
- I found 6.10pm (track open 5 till 7.20pm) to be a nice quiet slot and most had done a few stupid fast laps and left it nice and quiet.
- Don't look at your speedo - just rev.counter. The last corner is an easy corner and leads into a nice long straight - tank it here!
- Turn off radio/sat nav/ipod etc...Passengers are a bit distracting too to be honest...especially sitting in the back!
- Turn off traction control if you're confident. I did after my second lap as I found the system to be trying to use the brakes too much. Suffered brake fade and overheating on the brakes but not after switching the system off.
Michael
I am thinking of doing the ring next summer perhaps? after a few more upgrades...
You hear of people trying to learn it on a PS2 etc. Sounds like a good idea?! - to accustom yourself to the track etc. instead of EVERY corner being a blind one!
Anyone recommend this?
You hear of people trying to learn it on a PS2 etc. Sounds like a good idea?! - to accustom yourself to the track etc. instead of EVERY corner being a blind one!
Anyone recommend this?
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It is wise (and compulsary in some countries) to carry all your car docs with you (and both parts to you driving license). Your insurance certificate may have a section printed on it somewhere detailing all the cover, if any, you have for driving in Europe inc the countries that the cover applies to. In this case you don't need a green card as this is proof of the insurance cover. Your insurance provider will tell you where on you Certificate European cover is detailed. If it is not detailed on the Certificate you will need a green card.
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I'm with Admiral and they told me that I'd be insured abroad as part of my policy but not fully. They issued me with (for ?17) "International Motor Insurance Card" - a green sheet with all my details on. I had then full comprehensive insurance as I do in this country. As the ring is classed as a public road it's also insured for there too.
I believe that standard UK docs would be fine but not the prefered docs. For the sake of ?17 I didn't think it was worth the hassle. My policy (as I think most do) covers for upto 30 days in EU but without this cert. I think I would have been 3rd party only?
Cheers
I had need for my green card earlier this year and the Gendarme almost escorted me back to the chalet we were staying in because it wasn't in the car, and then scrutinised it at length......
Don't listen to your insurance company - you MUST have your green card with you to be fully comprehensively insured on the continent. If you go on your std certificate you will only be 3rd party insured and any accident will cause you no end of grief.
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