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Wasn't going to post this, just incase someone accused me of trying to bring this up again, but decided to anyway as its freedom of spech and all that!

I'm dealing with a complaint at the moment, one thats gone straight to the health authority and one which, it seems, the health authority are taking quite seriously.

We have a few multicultural people round here, I would guess 0.2% of the population. Recently we have been employing polish doctors, not because they are cheaper, they are not, but because they are damn excellent at their job, efficient, polite and people like them.

We've now had a complaint about this from a person of pakistan origin. (is that said correctly?). Gone straight up to the highest point. The complaint surrounds the fact that we do not cater for their needs. There are no GP's of his and his families faith within this surgery or the other 2 surgeries in the area. 'Your' GP's as he put's it do not understand the faith and therefore he and his family are getting poor treatment.

He want's to see GP's from his faith bought down here and he's giving us 6 months to do it before he takes it further. He also wants a room for prayer available, not for just his faith, but for everybody. Prayer room in a surgery?!?! he goe's on to mention that not only do we not have GP's from his faith, but that we have polish GP's to cater for the local influx of poles. This, he is saying, is racism.

He has spoken to his solicitor and the solicitor thinks there is a case, not so much against our surgery, but against the local health authority for not providing a GP that caters for the populations needs.

The NHS is now telling us that we may have to stop employing the polish GP's as it can be seen as unfair and racial discrimination to other GP's from other backgrounds, but they are looking further into the case.

I.e. basically what they are saying is we eithe rhave all english GP's, or need to be able to provide a service to all, i.e. translators, or muslim GP's if we going to employ any other GP's from other backgrounds.

WTF!!!

The head doc here just laughed and said 'strike him off the register'....think he's serious. That would cause a serious issue me thinks!
 

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Strike him off.. i bet that is all that will happen,, a doctor will claim he raised his voice or was agressive in tone.. the guy wont get a doctor at all in 3 months they always do it here.

On a side note My mate used to work for the GMC and the complaints he has read about GP's are unbelievable... his opinions of Doctors is quite low!

One GP declared a pensioner as dead at home and walked in the kitchen and asked the kids outright if they would sell him the house when the times right, then joked he has too strike while the irons hot!!!!

prescribing sick notes for cash is also quite common, as is disability sig offs, he had seen more than a few cases
 

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This is bloody ridiculous, what if the polish doctor is a muslim ? What is a white doctor is a muslim ? What if an Asian Doctor is a christian...... as far as I can see it the guy complaining the one in the wrong. Why insist on an all english surgery !!!! whats the bleeding difference if a polish doctor if is as good or better than an english one ?

racist

adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory
especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti-Semite(a)] n : a person with a
prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others [syn: racialist]

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You haven't actually posted anything thats racist so if people start saying you have they other have seen one key word and automatically made an assumption...they have mis-understood...or they are idiots and just looking to start trouble.

I find that completely ridiculous. Fair enough the GP should be aware and considerate of the patients needs but what he is suggesting is going to strain an already underfunded health service.

You employ a GP because of their skill and the fact that they can do the job well and they get on well with people...not really because of their ethnicty.

Can you imagine if this was reveresed and everyone person of non-pakistani origin turned round and said they didn't ever wanted to be seen be a doctor of a different ethnic background.

If he gets his way it is probably the start of things to come...and instead of going forwards I think society is going to be going backward.
 

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I think it was possibly picked up when we sent him a letter asking him for his etnicity. Something we have to do for every new patient now and all those registered in the last year. It's an NHS thing to try and combat these situations.

However, in the letter, you have to include something along the lines of 'this is so that we can cater the care for you'. I.e. some backgrounds are more at risk of various diseases than others.

I don't know where it's come from, but guessing that has agrivated it. Do muslims have differing beliefs on healthcare? Know Jehova's do?
 

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Give him the directions to Passport Control, if he doesn't like what we do in this country then find one that suits him.
 

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Give him the directions to Passport Control, if he doesn't like what we do in this country then find one that suits him.
LOL. Remember this is the NHS! You can't actually strike him off, that would blow the racism situation right up! You got to act under NHS guidelines and believe me, they pee their pants when they hear of racism and sueing. Just like the police do!

I haven't got to do anything, just had to acknowledge it and I get to write reports and keep them as part of my job (which was once IT engineer!!). Just find some complaints funny, this one included! Would be a shame if the Devon HA decided to stop us having access to the poles though, they are good, hard working people and would put them out of a job.

Mindyou, poles could then maybe pull the racism card on the people who pulled it on us?! [:D]
 

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The NHS is now telling us that we may have to stop employing the polish GP's as it can be seen as unfair and racial discrimination to other GP's from other backgrounds, but they are looking further into the case.
Wouldn't this be classed as racist to the polish people though?

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In areas like west london, most of the GPs are of Asian/Muslim desent. Does that mean I could say "they do not meet my ethnic needs"???

I guess the surgery where he is registered would be able to mark him so when he does need an appointment, the surgery can tell him 3 weeks waiting time??

I Most of the Polish that have moved to Basingstoke (alot of them) are hard workers. This though has a knock on effect as friends children who came home during the summer holidays from Uni who would usually get a job behind a bar, or as a waiter/waitress for the summer holidays found there were no jobs!! All taken by full time staff now from Poland! And thats nothing against the Polish people as Ive found them to be very polite and want to just make a better life fom themselves....But if it starts to effect the lifestyles of British citizens then I think we need to start getting alot more strict with our boarder controls and working permits!

My plan is this - Make a worldwide advertising campain showing just how bad this country is - Understaffed and underpaid NHS service, high taxes, Locals are rude to "johnny foriegner" and this really isnt the place to come and work! Might just slow the influx in down a little bit!

Graham mate - spend some of your winnings on making my advert!!!! LOL
 

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Graham i would really heed my advice on the other thread ... it will show you how others see this stuff.. go traveling.. especially Aus those buggers are out and out racists compared to us.. not only that it will gove ya a break of this politically correct hell hole
 

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How about:

"The UK Welcums u...innit" at border control? With a picture of:

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Would work for me.
 

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Give him the directions to Passport Control, if he doesn't like what we do in this country then find one that suits him.
Very true. This reminds me of an email I received with quotations from speeches by the PM John Howard and some of his ministers.

If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Judging by this guys complaint, next time I go to a hospital perhaps I should insist on being seen by a white doctor only?! Oh no, wait a sec....that would make me racist......
 

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If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
Bravfuckingo. What bit of this do the knobbers up in power not comprehend? If we stuck to this from the start, the country wouldnt be in the state it is. Make rules, stick to them.

England has bent over backwards to successfully accomodate just about every faith, colour and nationality. Then you get one plick abusing good nature and making silly demands; playing the racism card...

But whats the biggest howler? Laws that have been set up in favour of peoples human right to state their case, however daft or ridiculous, which means that solicitors are prepared to get involved. And who fronts the cost for their hearing..?? One out of touch with the real world judge, one daft ruling, and the floodgates are open to this sort of thing, and people like this getting their way...
 

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Does that mean I could say "they do not meet my ethnic needs"???
No it doesnt. because these things dont work both ways! I bet if we went to their country, they would laugh at us for making a stupid complaint like this one!

I think this countrys laws these days are so pathetic! Whats with the Prayer room in the surgery as well, surely you should have one for each religion if that is the case. In which case your surgery needs to be the size of an airport hanger?!
 

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Prayer room - look at it the other way. Maybe I, and other people of Christian, or any other faith, might find a Muslim prayer room offensive?

I have nothing against their faith, but maybe I do not want a faith that I do not support or believe in forced under my nose.
 
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