[blazedoobie]

Ok dudes and fellow dubbers

I am looking to overhall the front end with poly whatsits and was wondering about the bearing at the top of the strut, what is the best heavy duty replacement for this and where would i get it.

Secondly i have the vw 'sports' suspension. The car is lowered on eibach springs and i want to refresh the shocks with suitable ones (not oem) whilst rebushing. So what are the best shocks all round to go with the eibach lowering springs. Oh and coil overs dont intrest me. too expensive.

Thanks all

 

[Richard W]

A good budget suggestion would be some Bilstein B4s shortned stroke to work with lowered springs and about ?35 each.

www.motorsportworld.co.uk

 

[blazedoobie]

thanks dude

 

[g-master]

Could someone please tell me what this vw sport suspension is, as i want to upgrade mine thanks.

 

[blazedoobie]

yo g, its the suspension thatcomes with the 18t, however its unsuitable for the tdi, youre too heavy front end.if i was starting over and in your position, go for the front and rear anti rol bars. you will corner soooooomuch better.

 

[g-master]

Cheers mate yeah im getting arb and S3 braces but really do need to sort the shocks out, i see in Richardw cig it says sports suspension? I take it that's not oem stuff? i thought maybe i could upgrade to pd150 shocks or anniversary?

 

[Richard W]

Mine is OEM stuff, I bought some Anni 150PD suspension from another forum member to upgrade mine. AFAIK it's an evolution of the sports kit fitted to the std 130/150PDs.

The springs are Eibach and the shockers are uprated gas ones. The car has been transformed by the change, if you can find s/h parts I'd say do it without question as it's a very cost effective upgrade. If you want new stuff then don't do it 'cos the parts are more expensive than off the shelf Eibach & Bilsteins.

I would say that it's not the ultimate set-up, it's certainly the ultimate OEM solution for diesels.

 

[g-master]

Thanks for the reply mate! Have to keep an eye out in the classified ads.

 

[blazedoobie]

What a nightmare! i suppose beong tight for cash doesnt help!

I am trying to sort out the suspension. my car is dropped 50mm (i think, its alot lower that the pics that show 30mm drops on here) . Koni say that their adjustable shocks should not be lowered more that 30mm. I cant find Bilstein B4 shortened stroke anywhere. Even the very helpful guy at motorsport world was not sure why bilstein would shorten a standard shock.

I am on the verg of getting vag shocks put back in, but i dont like the bounce...

heeeeeeelp

 

[Richard W]

There's a full anni kit in the classifieds.... May be a middle of the road solution?

These p/nos are for the Bilstein B4 Gas shocks which are made to be matched with the VW sports suspension. Lower than std and shortened body to cope with the shorter springs. I don't understand why the bloke at Motorsport World said what he did as these are listed on the bilstein website and these are the prices from their own on-line shop...?

VNE-4575 Fr ?44.84

BNE-2917 R ?40.70

If you've got springs which are even lower than the VW sports kit then you may have to invest in expensive shocks or re-fit your VW sports springs. Alternatively you could try the billies anyway as the extra 20mm won't make that much difference and they'd still be much better than std VAG units.

Try looking here for the one's best matched for your car. http://katalog.bilstein.de

 

[02 Bora]

I am sure Awesome GTI would be happy to quote you on the Bilstein shocks, I know they deal with some of their products & Ade has the Bilstein set-up on his Bora.

 

[shane]

Quote: posted by blazedoobie on 14/12/2004 15:08:18

. So what are the best shocks all round to go with the eibach lowering springs. Oh and coil overs dont intrest me. too expensive.

Thanks all

From what I remember Koni's have had good feedback. There's red and yellow koni's - the red's are softer so the ride will be better (closer to OEM but still firmer damping). I just fitted some eibach's to my 1.8t (and I'm very happy with both the handling ride - although I probably need an uprated rear arb.) As soon as the standard shocks go I'll probably be replacing them with koni red's.

Btw, I'm sure the reason the bilsteins (and koni's) are shortened and stiffened(compared to OEM) is to work better with lowering springs.

 

[blazedoobie]

Thanks guys.

btw the koni reds arent recommeded for drops over 35mm i think it is. The ani suspension (shocks) is what is basically what is on mine now and 60k old. time for a refresh, but not with the same bouncy shocks again!!Billies or Konis i think.....

Oh and whilst i am at it, so to speak, does anybody know if there are uprated top mounts for the front shocks? I know that Audi do a standard and HD version for the A2/S2. Mine are clonking a gooden!

Thanks again guys

 

[Richard W]

If it's anni springs you've got then those billies or Koni reds should be fine. If std shocks can take a 30mm drop then shortened uprated billies/konis should be able to take another 10-20mm.

 

[blazedoobie]

its eibach springs i have. The sports shocks on the ani are the same as on mine, and the official liturature from Konis state the lowering capabilities of their shocks.

Cheers

 

[Richard W]

It's probably eibach shocks you'll have to get then, I'm sure they do matched sets for their own springs.

 

[blazedoobie]

i dont want to spend ?300+...the search goes on!