[Seaniboy]

I have seen some people on here have them on the 1.8 GTI T and have seen near 200bhp very nice. Just wondering when the fit do they raise the boost any?? If so how much?

Just wondering as my Dad has just bought the above car with a superchip in it, seems to pull very well all they way to the redline.

 

[MkIV Turbo]

Yep, with a remap on a 150bhp 1.8T, the boost is normally raised to 1.0 BAR.

 

[Seaniboy]

Quote: posted by MkIV Turbo on 29/07/2004 11:24:55

Yep, with a remap on a 150bhp 1.8T, the boost is normally raised to 1.0 BAR.

K, thanks. Is this what boost it holds? or is it a spike to 1bar then tails off?

 

[MkIV Turbo]

It'll prob build up to 1.0 BAR peak boost at about 3k rpm and then start to taper off at about 5k - 5.5k rpm to about 0.8 BAR. How much the map has been set to drop off by depends on which varient of the 150 1.8T your dad has, if its a newer, drive by wire one (2001 ish >) then it'll have a K03S turbo, so the map will probabally hold boost longer than if it was an older 1.8T with a regular K03. I don't really know what settings Superchips use on their maps so can only guess.

 

[phil08]

If its an actual 'superchip' they dont offer that much gain i dont think, maybe 20 more torque and 15bhp? i'm not too sure but for the same pric (ish) you can have a remap[]

 

[MkIV Turbo]

Quote: posted by phil08 on 29/07/2004 11:58:11

If its an actual 'superchip' they dont offer that much gain i dont think, maybe 20 more torque and 15bhp? i'm not too sure but for the same pric (ish) you can have a remap[]

Superchips is a remap as like APR etc and tend to be slightly conservative with what they quote on their website.

 

[Seaniboy]

The car is a 02 it came with the chip already init. Seem to be different opinnons on the superchip on this forum as some members have said there car has made near 200bhp with it? Thanks for info anyway guys

 

[MkIV Turbo]

There's nothing really wrong at all with Superchips, they maybe haven't had as much R & D spent on them as the likes of REVO and APR but there are some good reports of them on the forum if you do a search.

 

[phil08]

ah hell no i'm not saying there not good as i heard of these and knew of these way before the likes of revo,jabba etc. i dont think maybe theres much point in superchipping a n/a car but i think its summit like 30-40% more power with a superchip pn a turbo'd car

 

[Reflex TDI]

Quote: posted by MkIV Turbo on 29/07/2004 12:17:56

There's nothing really wrong at all with Superchips, they maybe haven't had as much R & D spent on them as the likes of REVO and APR but there are some good reports of them on the forum if you do a search.

Fair enough. Superchips would no doubt dispute the R&D as well, they have been at the forefront of this industry since Peter Wales founded Detection Techniques Ltd when ECU's were in their infancy and they are closely involved with VW UK in Milton Keynes, a stones throw away from their Buckingham HQ. They also work with VW Racing to map the race cars including the MiIV and MKV diesels and the R32, all of which compete in the VW Racing Cup.

Bit of bias here - my car is Superchipped and I have had plenty of contact with them over the last 5 years/3 cars. As per the comment above, their website claims are realistic and generally conservative, emphasis being on driveability, relaibility, no smoke etc rather than headline spiked figures.

 

[officedog]

i dont agree with this. I had my r32 chipped at the weekend. Okay the percentage increase may not be as much as with a forced induction car, but the difference is astounding. I think its more to do with the way it uses the power, rather than the actual increase.

Quote: posted by phil08 on 29/07/2004 12:37:09

i dont think maybe theres much point in superchipping a n/a car but i think its summit like 30-40% more power with a superchip pn a turbo'd car

 

[phil08]

sorry i meant to put smaller engined low output cars![^] I.E a 1.2/1.4/1.6 car thats my expericence anyways,had one on my fiesta z-s and racing puma and i had to spend 400 quid to get a couple of bhp

And i'm only referring to the actual 'superchip' from superchips not chipping/remapping in general

 

[LIAMH]

The bad reports i've seen about them is more down to the fitting agents than the company itself - their chip is proably as good as any

 

[Spin 150PD]

[!]Have to say I agree with some of the points made, am very satisfied with my superchipped car and found the power claims to be realistic but some of the outlets authorised to carry out the work do not fill you with much confidence, If I want anything done in future will make the trek to their HQ, as their approach and service was excellent. Another biased owner [!]

 

[Reflex TDI]

Agree with LiamH, Superchips have suffered with adverse publicity from some dealers. However, I believe this to be more historical than a reflection on their current dealer network.

As far as NA mapping goes, of course it is less spectacular than the possibilities offered by a turbocharger, but the price does reflect that (?293 as opposed to ?511 I think) and you should see a slight increase in power of up to 10% depending on the engine, and more importantly better throttle response, smoother power delivery and better fuel consumption.

The first car I had Superchipped was a V6 ST24 Mondeo. No sniggering at the back please; I liked it, but prefer my Golfs. As I recall, bhp remained around 170 but torque increased by 10% and the throttle response and power delivery were much improved. It was noticeably better than standard.

 

[rich1068]

Quote: posted by Reflex TDI on 29/07/2004 16:12:55

Agree with LiamH, Superchips have suffered with adverse publicity from some dealers. However, I believe this to be more historical than a reflection on their current dealer network.

I'm interested in this 'bad fitting' idea. I've just had a Superchip taken out after putting up with it for nearly a year. Very poor running and little or no increase in performance. I always put this down to a bad product and never really thought that it could be due to the guy who fitted it.

 

[Reflex TDI]

Visitor - What did you do to try and rectify the situation with the dealer &/or manufacturer?

Which model car is it you have had the problem with?

Are you sure the MAF sensor was OK?

 

[LIAMH]

The post i saw slagging off the product on a turbo car seemed more to do with how the Chip was installed or installation in a car that had other problems where another tuner wouldn't have chipped until it was sorted

Na cars are different story

 

[rich1068]

Quote: posted by Reflex TDI on 02/08/2004 18:54:57

Visitor - What did you do to try and rectify the situation with the dealer &/or manufacturer?

Which model car is it you have had the problem with?

Are you sure the MAF sensor was OK?

I?ve run an Octavia RS for about 18 months and 6 months in I decided I wanted a little more. The car was leased and the guy I lease it off was a Superchips agent so unfortunately I didn?t have much choice. My first impressions were that there was not much difference from standard and this was supported by a couple of dynos I had done. A slight increase in bhp, a little more torque. I also began to experience poor running eg flat spots, hesitation etc. Most of my driving is around town and it was very noticeable at low speeds. The MAF was changed and I fitted a Forge 007 hoping to cure the problem. It made no difference. Eventually I got sick of trying to ?drive around? the problem and had the chip removed. The car now runs just as good as it did when I first got it.

This is the abridged version of a very long story. If Superchips works for others then fair enough. Due to my experiences I would always advise people to stay well clear. Which brings me back to? How can it be badly installed?

 

[LIAMH]

I not defending superchips - i wouldn't touch their product

but if the agent is a bit slap dash with the ECU when its taken out to have the new chip put it can be damaged...