Sport Cam for PD150?
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Have you managed to find any sport cams for sale for the PD 150 engine anywhere?
a "Little diference".. is what?
10hp... 15hp in some revs?
now I?m making a Turbo Upgrade.
VNT 20 hibrid for PD 150 and a sport clutch for max 550NM.
its expected... 215/20 hp total.
a little bit more Turbo Lag.. but much better in medium to high revs.
thats why I am asking about the cams... and maybe later.. new "bigger" Injectors.
the target.. is like the PD engines in the VW Cup but for road use...[8D] ehehehheheheh
thanks
fLAVIO
10hp... 15hp in some revs?
now I?m making a Turbo Upgrade.
VNT 20 hibrid for PD 150 and a sport clutch for max 550NM.
its expected... 215/20 hp total.
a little bit more Turbo Lag.. but much better in medium to high revs.
thats why I am asking about the cams... and maybe later.. new "bigger" Injectors.
the target.. is like the PD engines in the VW Cup but for road use...[8D] ehehehheheheh
thanks
fLAVIO
Maybe 1-2bhp if that more like it for the cams. As for different injectors they're not needed unless you're getting the car over 250bhp. They also cost ?2000 a set compared with about ?200-300 for the 1.8T equivalent. If you're going for the vnt-20 I'd expect more bhp than 220 but larger turbos don't always work that well on the tdi's. Have you considered NOS?
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You could consider getting Turbo Dynamics to hybrid modify your VNT17
http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/
Garrett Turbochargers ? Part No 721021-0004 ? Aircooled
VW Part No. ?038253016G - 1999->
APLICATION : VW GOLF 1.9 TDI - 150BHP
Stage 1 ? MD374
Hi flow GT17 compressor wheel, cnc machined compressor housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, cut back turbine blades, lightening of turbine wheel for faster ?spool up?, modified V.N.T. turbine housing, uprated turbine seals. Other ?blueprinting? modifications. APPROX 200 - 220 BHP
Stage 2 ? MD376
Hi flow 2275 spec compressor wheel, cnc machined compressor housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, cut back turbine blades, lightening of turbine wheel for faster ?spool up?, modified V.N.T. turbine housing, uprated turbine seals. Other ?blueprinting? modifications. APPROX 240-260 BHP
Stage 1 ?925 plus VAT for new unit
Stage 2 ?975 plus VAT for new unit
Price to rework existing unit is around ?350 dependent on condition.
I am giving this serious consideration. I take the indicated power figures with a pinch of salt for an otherwise standard remapped engine. The weakness of the standard turbo is the bearing/spindle over 200bhp so this seems like the answer for the next phase of power. If it delivered, I would then investigate running higher boost and fuelling (using standard injectors). I too considered the VNT-20 but think space considerations and lag may rule it out.
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http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/
Garrett Turbochargers ? Part No 721021-0004 ? Aircooled
VW Part No. ?038253016G - 1999->
APLICATION : VW GOLF 1.9 TDI - 150BHP
Stage 1 ? MD374
Hi flow GT17 compressor wheel, cnc machined compressor housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, cut back turbine blades, lightening of turbine wheel for faster ?spool up?, modified V.N.T. turbine housing, uprated turbine seals. Other ?blueprinting? modifications. APPROX 200 - 220 BHP
Stage 2 ? MD376
Hi flow 2275 spec compressor wheel, cnc machined compressor housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, cut back turbine blades, lightening of turbine wheel for faster ?spool up?, modified V.N.T. turbine housing, uprated turbine seals. Other ?blueprinting? modifications. APPROX 240-260 BHP
Stage 1 ?925 plus VAT for new unit
Stage 2 ?975 plus VAT for new unit
Price to rework existing unit is around ?350 dependent on condition.
I am giving this serious consideration. I take the indicated power figures with a pinch of salt for an otherwise standard remapped engine. The weakness of the standard turbo is the bearing/spindle over 200bhp so this seems like the answer for the next phase of power. If it delivered, I would then investigate running higher boost and fuelling (using standard injectors). I too considered the VNT-20 but think space considerations and lag may rule it out.
[
]Have any of you looked at the GT22v from the transporter? Some guy on tdiclub has put one on his 110 and it sounds promising, very little lag etc.
edit - here; http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=863779&an=0&page=6#863779
edit - here; http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=863779&an=0&page=6#863779
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Quote: posted by bigalvw on 24/11/2004 17:52:18
just tried looking but site under construction.what bhp could i expect out of my pd 130.stage 2.does it have to be remapped as well ? or does it run on standard settings.[?]
Their website's always been like that. They emailed me the spec sheet which I have taken info from.
just tried looking but site under construction.what bhp could i expect out of my pd 130.stage 2.does it have to be remapped as well ? or does it run on standard settings.[?]
Their website's always been like that. They emailed me the spec sheet which I have taken info from.
Well.. if I knew all that info about Turbo Dynamics before buy my VNT20 hibrid for PD150...
I almost for sure.. did send my VNT17 for a stage 2 TD hibrid.
I will Post my Dyno?s before and after...
and hopefully you guys wont laugh.. (I hope it will not be a Flop investiment)
I drove a Leon PD150 equipped with the same VNT20 as the one I have, and not much "lag"... but the "re-map" is form another "wizzard" of me.
Lets see.. what happen.
I almost for sure.. did send my VNT17 for a stage 2 TD hibrid.
I will Post my Dyno?s before and after...
and hopefully you guys wont laugh.. (I hope it will not be a Flop investiment)
I drove a Leon PD150 equipped with the same VNT20 as the one I have, and not much "lag"... but the "re-map" is form another "wizzard" of me.
Lets see.. what happen.
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fLA - Good luck with that and let us know how you get on!
Im always cautious about power claims with a turbo upgrade mainly because the claims in power arnt the power you will get its the air the turbo will produce to support the power,u'll still have to get bigger injectors, custom map,bigger bore exhaust,bigger and more effiecient intercooler to name a few!!Ive been involved with tuning diesels for about 12 years and ive come across some very big power claims that deliver not too much.Just be careful handing over lots of cash for not much gain.
Bigger injectors aren't needed unless your going over 250bhp and at ?2k a set can't see many people stumping up the cash for them. Most people that are going down the bigger turbo route will already have better exhaust systems, we have FMIC's and hopefully better air intakes.
i am with tdi rs, and i would like to add turbo'd cars in genral do not benifit from wild cams as you have a restrictor on the exhaust( the turbo). most of the cams that are available for turbo'd cars are an improved profile but are fairly mild and do not give large gains. i am not awere of any cams for the tdi's.
I have also opened a topic in TDICLUB forum
if you could check it out.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=878602&page=&fpart=1&vc=1
cheers
fLAVIO
almost done the VNT20 in my car...
if you could check it out.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=878602&page=&fpart=1&vc=1
cheers
fLAVIO
almost done the VNT20 in my car...
I run a high lift and long duration cam in my 90hp base tdi and ive got to say it makes a big difference higher up the rev range,but on the down side the boost reduced as the valve overlap is more.The other thing is that without extra fuel a bigger turbo wont do a great deal.
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