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Hi, could someone please give me some advice.

I have just bought these 16" alloys:
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Today I got some 205/55 R16 Michellins fitted but when it came to putting them on the car it appears that the front wheels are touching the brakes and so will not turn.
The back wheels seem to fit alright though and don't touch.

My car is a '99 Mk4 Golf 1.6 SE and the wheels were sold to fit a Mk4 Golf.

I guess I need some spacers for the front but can anyone recommend what size?
Also will I need longer wheel nuts if I fit 5mm spacers for example?

Finally is it normal that the front would need them while the back doesn't?

Cheers

Mik
 

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Whatever size spacers you fit you will need to put longer wheel bolts on to compensate. Its more common for the wheels to foul the front brake due to the fact they are bigger than the rears.

Problem with front spacers is you need to fit the smallest ones possible as the bigger you go the more vibrations , unsteadyness will be felt through the steering wheel. This isnt the case on the rears.

Also dont go for cheapo spacers, they are badly made and never fit perfect.

I went for FK Automotive ones one mine, fit exactly to my hub (no freeplay) and bring out another hub for my wheel to sit on, problem is they are quite expensive.
 

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Thanks for the reply, so even 3mm spacers would need longer nuts.
Are they different lengths of nuts available as I imagine there are some extra long ones to fit with big spacers and these would probably be too long?

Would you not recommend some £12 spacers from Halfords then? ;)
 

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Personally i would put longer wheel bolts even on 3mm spacers, you want the most amount of thread captive in the hub. Any good alloy wheel specialist will be able to supply bolts, ive got 15mm spacers on the rear of my car and they charged me £3.50 a bolt.

Id imagine most spacer sets will come with the bolts but you need to make sure the bolts are correct for the wheels... i.e tapered / flat etc. Thread size.

I picked my FK ones off Ebay for a very good price, maybe worth a look?
 

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That's mad, what offset are they? The brakes on a 1.6 are tiny, shouldn't be any problem?

Good choice of wheels though [Y]
 

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Yeah the brakes are tiny which is another reason I was surprised [;)]
I don't know what offset they are to be honest [:(] How do I find out?
 

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Look around the edges of the rim, between spokes, there should be a number stamped, beginning with "ET" - for example ET35 means 35mm offset.

My wheels are 7.5" wide with ET35 and fit OK. Plenty of space over the front calipers.
 

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Ok, mine appear to be 39mm.

The back reads 6.5x16 and E39

What offset does the Golf need? 35mm presumably? [;)]

Will I need 5mm spacers then or will 3mm do? How much clearance do your 35mm offset wheels have over the calipers?
 

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Offset is relative to the width of the wheel, the ET number by itself is meaningless [:S] The only thing that is for certain is that higher offset means the wheel will sit further inside the arch whereas lower offset means the wheel will stick out more.

I'll have a look at mine a bit later.
 

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I must admit I am pretty clueless about all this offset stuff. I've had a look around and found people have wheels with all sorts of different offsets.

So does a bigger number offset mean that the wheel sits further inside the arch and hence the spokes are closer to the brakes?

And adding spacers will effectively reduce that offset?

Any news on how much clearance you wheels have shiuming?
 

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20mm! And your offset is only 4mm less than my wheels.

See now this is where it gets a little hazy for me! lol [;)]
 

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Well I bought some "universal" 3mm spacers from ebay but unfortunately they don't seem to be all that universal as they don't fit!! [:(]

The 3mm space seems to be plenty though.

On closer inspection the wheel was actually touching the brake pad not the caliper!

Do you think I should get longer wheel nuts for 3mm spacers? What is the minimum length of nut you'd recommend having actually go into the hub?

Mik
 

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I personally wouldn't mess about with universal wheel spacers especially off eBay [:S]

Do you absolutely have to have these particular wheels? What were they originally for? Look a bit Audi to me.
 

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Well I've got the wheels now and if all I need are some 3mm spacers then it seems a little over the top just to scrap the idea and get other ones [;)]

Do you know what the stud pattern is for the Golf?

Also any word on a minimum length of wheel nut that is safe? [:)]

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Didn't check it before I bought the wheels no as they were advertised as wheels to fit MkIV Golf, Audi A3 etc...which they do in terms of stud patter ;)

It is these spacers which don't fit it even though they say they fit 98 - 125mm! Apparently not [;)]
 

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Sorry to barge in on your post but I thought it better than starting an entire new thread. I need some urgent advice regarding spacers.

I looking at 17" alloys - Tyre width 215 - Aspect ratio 40

Spacers and nuts are supplied for a Mk4 so really there should be no problems? I trust the advice given on this forum more than any trader anywhere :)
 
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