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i am in a similiar position and was wondering whether i should buy the components (head unit) and then just take it down to halfords and have them fit it.

will they do a good job does anyone know?
 

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It's pot luck as to who actually does the work if you take it to Halfords,you may get the job done by a complete newbie,or someone with 20 years experience.In theory anyone can do it as it's all plug and play.I've not fitted this particular model,so I don't know if it has chassis mount ISO connectors or not.If it does have,you'll need Autoleads part number PC2-69-4,if it has it's ISO connectors on a seperate wiring loom,you'll need to swap a couple of wires over,and to get medium wave to work,you'll need a PC5-52.Oh and don't get the Sony,have a look at the Pioneer Bluetooth headunits,IMHO a lot better and will last a lot longer.

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As above with advice on Halfords mate and unless you buy the unit there fitting will be expensive. Have a look about for local specialists rather than Halfords that will do a better job and charge less if you are worried about doint it yourself.
 

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Yeh you might be right. At the time I first posted this the Sony head unit was the only one that supported audio streeming aswell. Since that Pioneer have brought out another two. This looks sweeeet Pioneer DEH-P9800BT. Has graced my crimbo list :0)
 

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Im after a bluetooth unit aswell. My heart was set on the Sony headunit. With the Sony Hu, you can also play music from yout fone (the SE fones only apparently), but they arent compatible with some nokia fones. My Nokia 6680 is compatible with the Pioneer so i might be going pioneer aswell.

Btw, why dont some people trust sony reliability no more? ive had the same headunit for the past 3 years and my brothers have always had sony hu's aswell. We ve never had a problem with them
 

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Btw, why dont some people trust sony reliability no more? ive had the same headunit for the past 3 years and my brothers have always had sony hu's aswell. We ve never had a problem with them
Because I sell Sony,and it's not case of if it's going to go wrong well within the warranty period,but when,out of all the brands I sell,Sony is the least reliable.

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I wasnt aware with any promblems with Sony. I have always had Sony and they have been alright. If there are issues though then its going to be Pioneer as a little treat for myself this christmas.

Refering to compatability, when I was looking at the Sony headunit I found a list of compatible phones and im sure there was more than SE on it. In fairness out of the Sony and Pioneer the Sony headunit does look the best.
 

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I was probably being a bit unfair towards Sony,as this makes it sound like they ALL go wrong,which they don't,but our repair workshop is always complaining about the number of Sonys he has on his shelfs compared to other brands,but this could be down to the fact that they are a lot more popular,or it seems that way at least.

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Must say though, the design of the bt5000 really does stand out over the pioneer units which just look plasticky and flashy. The other deciding fact is that with the Sony headunit, using a Sony-Ericcson fone you can stream mp3s direct from your mobile fone. Aside from the bluetooth features, ive always felt sound quality on Sony headunit is usually better than oter brands at similar price. For ?259 quid i think its worth it.
 

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I'd still put money on ANY Pioneer outlasting ANY Sony,and Pioneers customer care is second to none,whereas Sony's is errrmmm... none.I personally wouldn't buy a headunit on it's abilty to play music stored on my mobile phone,and I also think that Bluetooth although very useful is just a gimic.I'd much rather put my phone in a cradle (it can take as long as five seconds),where you get the benefit of having it charged,and the enhanced reception from having an external aerial,neither of which you will get with your phone in your pocket.

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True, i think your right. I was just thinking that if i was to spen ?250 on a headunit, i wanted it to have that something extra which i thought would make it worth the money.

The reason why that playing mp3s off the fone appealed to me was because at the moment im upgrading from a minidisc unit which is a hassle when it comes to burning new music. When it comes to the bluetooth feature, you could get a track off your mates fone and play it on ur headunit straight way. Gimmick i know, but appealing.

Also, at that price range, it has the best design aswell imho.

But the all important thing which i forgot to ask was, what kind of sound options it has and how good the sound production is from this headunit. any opinions? is it worth the money? if not then what is?

(i always thought pioneer, kenwood etc were owned by sony)
 

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(i always thought pioneer, kenwood etc were owned by sony)
Definately not,they're all individual companies in their own right.My Pioneer DEH-9400MP although no longer made has more control over the sound than any Sony ever made,and has been in daily use for nearly five years now,and has never missed a beat,they still have the EEQ function which makes it quicker to change EQ curves,and easier to get to a setting which you like,I don't like the all the different X-bass and X-plod settings on Sonys which are just lots of ways of turning the bass up,this one brand alone has almost certainly resulted in more blown up subs than all other brands put together.

If you've already got a BT phone it does make sense,and the automatic switching over to handsfree as soon as you get in the car is very handy,and it only takes a minute or so to pair another phone to it if needed,so if you get a new phone you don't need to change the car kit.I'm not employed by any of these companies,so I can make a good decision on what to buy based on what I've learnt over the last 15 years or so,and I'd always buy Pioneer based on what I see as good build quality,long term reliability,ease of use,good aesthetics,and good sound quality.But a proper hands free car kit still has an external aerial and cradle.

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I thought xplode was one of sonys best features, especially if you had a sub. No other brand gives out bass like that. But th deh-75bt has caught my attention aswell. my budget is only ?250, so i dnt have many options
 

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That sort of bass isn't natural,or in the least bit musical (to my ears anyway),there's no full range speakers that can withstand that sort of punishment,and the average sub in a ported box already has it's death certificate signed,but they sell in vast numbers because the customers get taken in by the thought of all those extra ways of making more bass.

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Chris, thanks for your advice mate, with that and constant advice from my mates to go for either a pioneer or a kenwood, my heart is now set on a deh-p9800bt. My brothers in US at moment and says he can get it for  around ?250, cheaper than anywhere in the Uk, but are those headunits compatible with Uk cars? would it be worth buying a headunit from abroad?
 

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The US spec units will have no RDS,and channel spacing will miss out stations that end with I think odd numbers,and an only get those that end with even numbers(it might be the other way round).Which ever way roundit is,you can only get half the number of stations that are available to us,but the Bluetooth spec is the same the world over.Just be aware that should the need arise,you've got no warranty,but in my experience you'll probably never need to use it.Oh and it probably won't be on ISOs either,just bare wire ends on the loom,but for that saving you might just as well buy a proper original UK ISO wiring loom.

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In that case, its probably better that i stick to Uk spec then, unless im saving crazy money.

The sony is probably out of question now as everyone reckons the pioneer offers better sound. Its between the DEH-p75bt and the DEH-p9800bt, depending on which i can pick up on a better deal. Im not familiar with all this jargon, but is it worth paying for the higher model with auto EQ, BBE, HPF, EEQ plus, DSP and high voltage output(im already powering a sub with an eye on another to power my back speakers)

Sorry chris, i might be asking you a bit too many questions but thanks for the advice so far.
 

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The 9800BT is the replacement for my 9400MP,which although it dosn't have quite as much in the way of signal processing,it's got what 99% of people will ever want from a head unit.If you've got decent speakers in your car,and you like to get the best out of them,I'd say it's definately worth it,I won't replace mine until it's broken as I do use all the features it has,especially the time alignment,which although I'm sure I could live without,it's nice to have this and other features that do make an improvement to the sound quality.
And if you want to amp up your speakers,I'd say forget about the rears(I never have rears connected in my car),get some decent components in the front and amp those up,you don't have to go mad on the amp,even something like 2 X 50 watts will make a big difference.I think that having the majority of the sound coming from behind you is like to going to a live gig,and standing with your back to the stage,which unless it's Westlife,you wouldn't normally do.

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