[andymac]

Right should I buy an r32?

I do about 300 miles a week, but my work give me a genorous allowance for that that covers the 4motion running costs easily so should cover the r32's

But my 4motion has done high miles already so I dont really want to plough more on to it.

I really need 5 doors the 3 doors on my 4motion are not making life as easy as it could be?

I have looked at Autotrader and I think I could get a 5 door R for 18000

Finance wise I own my 4motion outright, so I would need to take some finance out that would cost me around ?180 a month, but some of this should be offset by the extra running costs of the 4motion being older etc,

Come on guys Convince me to buy one Oh and how do I convince the missus?

 

[sutherlandm]

Yes.

And as soon as possible.

You've only got one life and you will seriously enhance it with an R32!

No one thing is massivley superior to the 4Mo but lots of little bits make an overall big improvment!

 

[Chris]

Yes!!

 

[GeordieLife]

I would...if i were me! []

Go for it mate...

 

[Richard W]

No

my 2p

BMW 3 Series 330i Sport Touring,

5 Doors, Manual, Estate, Petrol, 54,700 miles, Silver Metallic With Grey Leather, Climate Control, Leather Upholstery, PAS, ABS, Air Bag, Passenger Air Bag, Alloy Wheels, Remote Central Locking, Cruise Control, Electric Windows, Electric Mirrors, FSH, Alarm, Immobiliser, CD Player, Sports Pack. ?17,995.

BMW 3 SERIES 330D SE TOURING5 Doors, Manual, Estate, Diesel, 59,272 miles, Silver. ABS, Alloy wheels, Computer, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Immobiliser, Remote locking, Leather upholstery, CD Stacker, Climate Control, Front Fog Lamps, Power Steering, Rear Wash Wipe, Reversing Sensors, Service History. ?18,000.



Before you hold up your hands in horror at an estate over a hatch - try one......

 

[DBGTTDI]

from a car point of view - YEEEES !

other thing to consider though is the recent spate of jackings and house break-ins - do you need that sort of attention

 

[sutherlandm]

DB - Paranoia levels were already high and now they're worse!!!

Richard - They are indeed very good. A mate bought a Y reg 330i Sport recently for ?15k (low mileage too!) and it's excellent.

Very similar performance to the R32 but more relaxed and better balanced.

I prefer the slight hooligan nature of the Golf and hatch practicality (that Touring boot is actually very small and you need a luggage cover) but the Bimmer is very desirable.

 

[dubzter]

If you can afford it why the hell not. If you decide you don't like it you could always sell, I wouldn't think it would lose much over 6 months.

 

[TigerStyle]

Personally, an R32 wouldnt be the car which I would buy if I had ?20k.

I would be more inclined to the BMW 330 coup?.

 

[craigv]

bmw 530d sport would be my choice

craigv

 

[Richard W]

Quote: posted by sutherlandm on 09/12/2004 10:56:40

Richard - They are indeed very good. A mate bought a Y reg 330i Sport recently for ?15k (low mileage too!) and it's excellent.

Very similar performance to the R32 but more relaxed and better balanced.

I prefer the slight hooligan nature of the Golf and hatch practicality (that Touring boot is actually very small and you need a luggage cover) but the Bimmer is very desirable.

Very much my thinking - the BMW is great fun to drive and the engine is a totally gorgeous. With a chip and revised VANOS settings....[]

Many folk see them as estates, they're not true estates more like big hathcbacks. They do come with built in luggage covers and cargo nets though...?

I just have a feeling the R32 resdiduals are going to drop quite substantially as the MkV really gets into it's stride.

 

[sutherlandm]

Residuals?

Pah! - Since owning a Saxo VTR (no laughing, this was 1998 before Saxo Barrydom!) from new (?11kish) and selling it 18 months and 20k miles later for ?6600, I fear no German made residuals!

Worry too much about them and life becomes one continual stress out.

 

[evilhomer]

Personally I made this choice about 6 months ago... it was a definite no.. but only after I had a test drive.

It's just not different enough matey. You can do the majority of upgrades to the 4mo for a lot less money, and you will get so little for the 4mo. The 4mo's prices are a steal now... the R32 will never be as bad.. ie residuals, but it's not justification enuf for me to spend another ?10K on a very, very similar car.

Think very carefully. My 4mo has now got a lot of the features of the R, all i would need would be the bumpers and seats really and people would struggle to tell the difference... including performance and definitely handling.

Good luck

M

 

[andymac]

I will never in my life own a BMW I hate them with a vengence I would before buying a 3 series buy a jag x/s type. As for the estate bit I know there very usefull thats why I bought the missus a Zafira I dont really want another.

As for the attention I really am not arsed, Ive had worse attention before TBH my accord type r got alot of unwanted attention but it something I can live with.

At the end of the day you only live once and I will never ever let the fear off theft let me not own something, though I am thinking of buying a rhodesian ridgeback (big scary dog) soon so that sorts the break in part out LOL.

Evilhomer I know the 4mot's are similar But my 4mot has done alot of miles and I dont really want it to rack up more so if I were to get a lower mileage 4mot I would end up spending the same as buying an R32 if you took the difference in depreciation into the equation over 3 years, IE ?4000 more for a newer 4motion plus ?2000 in mods then 6/7 thou in depreciation over 3 years equals a loss of ?6000 for a modded 4motion or the R32 ?10000 more ?0 for mods and only ?4/5000 in depreciation,

So in 3 years a modded 4motion will lose me ?6/7000

and a R32 will lose me ?4/5000

 

[sutherlandm]

Andymac -If you've thought that carefully about one AND found out it's "cheaper" then you HAVE to get one.

Black, blue, silver or red?!

Evilhomer - If you've put so much effort into looking like an R32, why not just get one in the first place?!

Must agree though that 4Mo prices are shockingly good and one thing I really like about them over an R32 is that you can have a nice nbeige leather Recaro interior. Best colour for leather I reckon.

 

[Richard W]

Fair 'nuff. Personally, I think R32s are overrated when you look at what could be bought with the same budget. You've specified 5 doors so that would negate things like coupes, so what about an S4? ?18k would buy you a very nice example. But you say you don't want an estate.

What other 5 door car will give 200bhp+..... S4/RS4/S6 etc. I know I'm probably on a loser and that you've already amde up your mind, well here's one from the outfield perfect for taking the dog out!

In the trader today, (very nearly an S6)

Audi A6 Avant 4.2 quattro Sport 300 BHP, 5 Doors, Automatic, Estate, Petrol, 35,000 miles, Racing Green, T Registration. Black Leather recaro`s, Satellite Navigation+, Electric Tilt/Slide Sunroof, Xenon Headlights, Bose. ?16,995. The extra ?1k would put a nice set of Bilsteins on it and there you go enourmous V8 wallop for Golf money.

But really I think you've answered your own question, it shouldn't be 'should I buy one' it should be the last line of your post - how do you convince the missus.....

 

[GeordieLife]

Buy a Zorse (a zebra/horse cross) or a Zonkey (you guessed it, a zebra/donkey cross) and traverse the country upon it! Apparently they make fierce attack animals, so no need to fear the car jackers!

 

[spanner]

One thing that seems to have been missed and is something I think is important when buying ANY car is the sense of occasion when you sit in it. I can honestly say that apart from a Ferrari 355GTS, the R32 has the biggest feelgood / sense of occasion of any car I've driven. Within about 2 minutes in the driving seat I knew I had to buy it.

A friend of mine has an M3 - great car, wonderful chassis, magnificent engine....but a complete lack of occasion when you're sat in it - almost clinical. Perhaps i'm biassed towards VWs, but I'm not the only person who has said this.

As for picking an R32 over a V6 4motion, it's difficult, but not wanting to knock the 4mo, it is a long way from the R32 unless you spend some cash. Go for an R32 and you wont regret it and you get the real thing from the off.

When I bought mine I planned to keep it for 5 months. 11 months on I still smile when I sit in it and I still turn round to have a look at it when I've parked it somewhere.

 

[curley]

I agree with sutherlandm if you have thought about it that much you must want it, go get it, you know you want to... If i had the money i would.. I live in a bad area of Liverpool, houses and cars getting broken into all over, as you say "Big scary dog" (Bullmastif)in my case and i dont have a problem..

 

[andymac]

Quote: posted by curley on 09/12/2004 15:06:38

I agree with sutherlandm if you have thought about it that much you must want it, go get it, you know you want to... If i had the money i would.. I live in a bad area of Liverpool, houses and cars getting broken into all over, as you say "Big scary dog" (Bullmastif)in my case and i dont have a problem..

Exactlty I have to park in bad parts of liverpool every week, speke, norris green smithdown road etc but I really dont feel itll be a problem at the end of day if I get jacked I will have been unlucky.

I used to use my old mans jag xkr and noone even looked at me twice.

Have thought about the rs4 especially an avant BUT the the thought of a high mileage turbo car thats been ragged and has no warranty left on it doesnt apeal to my wallet.