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Hi guys, I'm after a lil help.....

I've managed to aquire an unused and still boxed Scorpion 1104 alarm module (VW part No. 998 VAG 190) and after a load of mither I've managed to source the correct loom for the unit (From a local stealers). I'm fitting it in a T reg 1.6 Mk4 that currently only has key operated central locking, and was wondering if anyone has any installation instructions or any experience in fitting these units?? I contacted Scorpion (or what's left of the company) and found them 2 be the most unhelpful people in the world (told me I shouldn't have my hands on the unit as I was general public and not VW...... W*nker!), and the stealers we're not much help either. Any help would be much appreciated!!

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Don?t worry,Scorpion UK (I think it?s Terry Coleman???) are just as bad towards their dealers,and for that reason I ditched ?em some years ago,and also for the fact that their car alarms are tempremental to say the least,so my advice is do yourself a favour,and avoid them like the plague.But they are right that none of these products should be sold to the general public for a number of reasons.
If you?ve no previous experience with fitting car alarms,then I?d strongly advise against attempting this job yourself just for the sake of saving a bit of money,if it all goes Pete Tong,then it?ll end up costing you considerably more than you?ll ever save by DIYing the job.Why not pay a specialist to do the job who does have the necessary experience to complete the job safely,and in a lot,lot less time that you?ll ever be able to do it in.You can get something like a Gemini or Sigma fitted for as little as ?150 that will give you two remotes AND a years warranty,and the peace of mind that comes with it.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>Check this thread out,and maybe go back a few months through this section as this question(although not Scorpion specific) has been asked quite a few times before,it?s nowhere near as easy as everyone thinks.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>Chris.<o:p></o:p>
 

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Heya,

Thnaks for the reply, I've done alarms before though, all I need is a schematic and/or the installation manual and I'm sure I'll be fine! I'm an engineer by trade and usually not too shabby at most technical stuff (I deal with high end medical research equipment). Is there anything on ETKA?? Can someone take a look for me?? Or is there anyone on here that has worked/does work for a dealer that used to fit these??? It would be a shame if I have to abandon this after the crap I've been through already! I used to run a Scorpion alarm on my 16v Mk1 Golf and never had a problem with it......... Wish I still had the old girl!! [cry]

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If you have the correct loom for that alarm and your car,it should be almost 100% plug and play,but things have progressed somewhat since the Mk.1 Golf,they didn't have CAN-BUS in those days.Even without a diagram,any experienced fitter should be able to work out where eveything goes,Scorpion wiring colours are all the same,as are VW wiring colours,with the exception of the central locking wiring colours which they change whenever they've got nothing better to do.

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Hey, me again!

Yeah, most of the plugs I can work out, but there are quite a few loose wires with the connectors on the end of them that go inside the plugs, so I've obviously got to mess around with the car wiring plugs.....somewhere! I might see if any alarm fitters in my area can help!

I really appreciate the suggestions by the way!

I transplanted the whole Mk2 16v wiring loom into the Mk1 and moved the fusebox over to the drivers side....happy days!!..not! I have the upmost respect for anyone who knows there way around car wiring!!

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The lovely tropical Manchester!

Do you reckon this is the sort of thing most alarm fitters would have much experience of??

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Any alarm fitter with PROPER experience should handle it no problem,and have access to the information he (or she) needs.

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Hmmmmm...

I've got a friend who owns a well respected garage near me, (He's the reason I got into golf's) I think I'm going to ask him to recommend someone if he can. I'd still rather do it myself, as I like to know how things work, and I trust my own workmanship, and find it hard to pay someone (usaually over the odds) to do a job I know I'm more than capable of doing! This is a general thing with me and cars, I think I'm a bit of a perfectionist, I find it hard to let go!! I'm sure you lot know how I feel !! lol
 

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Scorpion have been taken over and still exist!! They are based in Chorley (I think?) Not much bloody use though! Very rude! Customers are always right.... Maybe not! If I was as much help to my customers as they were to me I'd be out of a job pretty soon too!! [;)]
 

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By all means have a go yourself,but I see this sort of thing every day at work,my customers think my ?25/hour is way too expensive and have a go themselves,and in probably about 50% of the time,they can't get something working,or some part of the car won't work any more,so they bring it to me,and it ends up costing them more for me to tidy up a birds nest of wiring than it would have done if they'd payed me to do the whole job from the start.
There's no excuse for them being rude,but as I said,these products are not supposed to be sold to the general public,and although you know your intentions are good,they don't know you from Adam.Knowing what I know now,and what most of my customers end up doing now is to not buy a cheap alarm off e-bay,they'd much rather pay to have a product expertly fitted,and very importantly I can give the proper technical backup for the warranty period should it go wrong.
I'm not trying to talk you out of learning how to DIY it,so long as you're sensible and can recognise when you're out of your depth and it's time to seek help,but PLEASE be very careful and think twice about any actions you take whilst installing it.

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Me again,

Can someone look on ELSA for me for a diagram for this install?? Much appreciated!!!! Any install guides??

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If you're still determined to go ahead with this,maybe you could post a photo(s) of what you have,and we could go from there? But please NOT camera phone photos,as you can normally get more useful information from a picture drawn with crayons.

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My 1.6 MkIV Golf has just returned from a Service and MOT
but the siren for the "dealer fitted" alarm no-longer works. The alarm works,
i.e. the indicators flash, doors lock etc but the siren does make a noise.

It's a 1104 Scorpion alarm. I spoke to Scorpion and they
said it was probably a transformer in the siren and as it is 10 years old it is
obsolete. Has anyone been able to fix this model in the past?

If it can't be DIY repaired will replacing the old unit with
another 1104 be as straight forward as disconnecting the loom and plugging it
into the new unit?
 

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If it can't be DIY repaired will replacing the old unit with
another 1104 be as straight forward as disconnecting the loom and plugging it
into the new unit?
Yes if you get the whole kit including new remotes.

Chris.
 
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