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Hello All,

I have been looking around as I will be upgrading my PC very shortly in the new year.

Does anybody have any experience of this motherboard?

http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=18799

I have read really positive reviews about it and was thinking about purchasing it with a AMD x2 4400+ processor and probably an ATI x850 card with a Hiper Type R power supply.

Please let me know what you think of this configuration.

John
 

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Never used a sapphire board before, but that looks pretty good, and set up with what you have in store, should make a lovely system. What games you planning on playing then!?
 

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Doesnt sound too bad but I did check on their prices against another site I use for all my PC bits, and what I ordered on Tuesday has just arrived this morning, they do seem a little bit more expensive.

I ordered a new Western Digital 400Gb SE SATA drive for ?153 inc VAT and they are ?16 cheaper then at your site. I also ordered 2Gb of DDR ram while I was online too

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/news.htm

Have a look anyhow, hope this helps
 

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Well I just plan on playing all my current games HL2 CS Source etc but after using other newer PCs I just feel mine is starting to slow down
Sad [:(]
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My current spec is an AMD 2600+, 1 gig ram and a radeon 9700 pro which i have had for almost three years but I normally upgrade every few years. I just like to make sure that when I upgrade, the PC will last a long time like this one has.

Thanks for the website "
MarkReading
" I have used them in the past for coolers etc and have been very impressed by them!

I just have a few more questions though...

1. I now notice there is SATA 2 which is double the speed. Does this mean the motherboard I have been looking at will not support it?

2. Will the X850 last long enough like my 9700 has or should I go a bit further for the X1800?

3. What type of memory should I use? I was thinking crucial ballistix.

Thanks again

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1. It states sata-2 on that board, so I would presume its ready.

2. Buy the best graphics card you can afford, or your willing to afford!

2. Crucial Ballistix is good enough yes!

Make sure you give enough cooling to this beast remember. I'd reccomened drawing some air in from the front and pulling it out the back. You want a storm force gale going through that thing! [:)]
 

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Ignore my stupidity for not reading that!!
Confused [8-)]


When it says DDR 400, does that mean the best memory I can get is the PC3200 stuff?

I have always been pretty good at getting wind tunnels setup in my computers whilst keeping them quiet so my mum doesn't get annoyed! (learned that after the thermaltake volcano 9 incident hehe)

Also, are all the x1000 series cards better than an x850pro?
 

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DDR400 is PC3200. 400 is the clock frequency and 3,200 is the bandwidth in MB/s.

Crucial Ballistix is a good choice as it is Crucial's premium brand of memory for gamers and demanding users.
 

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So is that the fastest memory that the above mention motherboard can take? I would have thought it could handle a higher bandwidth type.
 

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It's only certified for DDR400, but like all good modern boards supports it in dual channel mode for twice the bandwidth. Just make sure whatever amount of memory you choose, you spread it across an even number of sticks, so 2xDDR400 = 6.4 GB/s bandwidth. This happens to match the bandwidth of an 800 MHz bus, so there's no point using faster memory.

However, most motherboard manufacturers also allow you to overclock the board (memory and processor Front Side Bus) to get more performance. Think of it as chipping a car engine ECU to increase boost on a turbo. When you do this though, you must use the best quality motherboard and memory in particular. None of the board manufacturers will guarantee a board to run above spec, they turn a blind eye to it because they know thousands of people do it, and the way they design the boards encourages this, bottom line is your mileage may vary. Quality board, memory, power supply are all very important if you're going to tune it.
 

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I have been rethinking motherboards and not sure if there is much difference between the top board and the bottom board on following link. All i can see is a different chipset number, the bottom once supports crossfire and the top board can take nVidia cards.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Sapphire.html

Perhaps I should go for one that is CrossFire ready as it will make future upgrades easy.

And is the Corsair RAM mentioned above good?

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Corsair memory is the dog's danglies, I always specify it for servers, and the kit you chose has matched pairs and the lower latency spec which is a good thing.
 

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You're obviously gunning for performance so make sure you order a pair of Western Digital Raptor 74 GB (not the 36 GB version) SATA drives and set them up in RAID 0. It will go like the clappers.
 

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A RAID setup has already crossed my mind however I am a student so I only have about 1000 to play with.

I have been looking a lot this evening and I have come up with this specification.

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core 4400+ - ?349.94

Memory - Corsair (TWINX2048-3200C2PT) 2GB -
?176.19

Motherboard -
Gigabyte
GA-K8NXP-SLI Skt939 nForce4 SLI (?103.16)

Hard Drive - Western Digital SE
250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - ?82.19

GFX Card - XFX GeForce 7800GT Extreme LED
Edition 256MB (?240.82)

Case - iCute - ?31.72

PSU - Hiper 580W Type-R
(Ebuyer) - ?59.98

Optical Drives- Sony 52x32x52x16
CD-RW/DVD-ROM COMBO - ?23.36

Floppy - Mitsumi 7-in-1
(Overclock.co.uk) - ?16.39

Audio - Sound Blaster Audigy
2 - ?0

Internals - Western Digital
Secure Connect Serial ATA Cable - ?5.82

- Rounded Floppy Cable - ?0

- Rounded IDE Cable - ?0

OS - Microsoft Windows XP
Home - ?0

Total = ?1089.57

Let me know what you think of that spec, anyone provide a rough estimate of a 3DMark 05 Score with that setup?

Sorry for all the chop and changing I just like to be 100% of what I want before I give that much money away!

Thanks again,

John
 

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I'd aim to spend at least twice that on the case to be honest, you've chosen some top components, don't let it down with the case. I've seen lots of cases and how they cut corners, you'll get a far more sturdy case if you go up to the server style towers like those from Chieftec.

Also consider buying two 120GB SATA drives and stripe them (RAID 0) for twice the speed, instead of a single 250GB drive. Hard disk speed makes a big impact on system responsiveness.
 

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The case I got for when I upgraded my pc a while back is below :-

CoolerMaster Stacker STC-T01 - Silver Trim (No PSU) (CA-054-CM

CM Stacker is a new computer chassis from Cooler Master with extremely powerful functions. The innovative design supports Extend ATX, BTX and dual power supply, making for easy upgrading. Besides its unique cross-flow fan (optional extra), the CM Stacker supports up to eight regular fans, giving it unmatched cooling performance. Built from 1.0 mm thick steel plate, the CM Stacker is immensely strong, with a high-quality anti-vibration stand providing extra protection for the system. Designed for maximum extensibility and allowing the user the utmost flexibility in the utilization of space, the CM Stacker makes upgrading incredibly easy, and can be configured to meet your own personal needs with minimum hassle.

- Supports up to 11 5.25" drives
- Moveable front control panel with 6 USB 2.0 connections
- Maximum upgradeability; supports E-ATX and the upcoming BTX
- Dual power positioning design
- Supports 2 PSU's
- Comes complete with leads for use of 2 PSU's
- CM Stacker supports up to 8 fans
- Front ? Full mesh screen provides superior air flow; support up to three 12 cm fans
- Top - Ultra silent 8cm Fan * 1 (exhaust)
- Side ? Mesh screen on side panels provides the maximum air ventilation
- Rear ? Ultra Silent 12cm Fan * 1 + 8 cm Fan * 2 (intake)
- Motherboard ? 300mm cross flow fan; provides superior air flow for key PC components (CPU, VGA etc.)
- Tool-free installation; Supports the use of screws for permanent installation
- Maximum flexibility in space utilization for self-assembly
- Aluminum alloy motherboard tray frame
- Strengthened with 1.00mm steel plates
- Superior mechanical design for greater stability

Picture can be found here - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Coolermaster_Cases_126.html

Very good case and very easy to swap/upgrade things later on as well and looks very cool with the side panel cut away and nice glowing lights inside [;)]
 

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Dude, go for theWestern Digital 74gb 10,000 RPM drives, honestly! Your building this system for superior performance, and letting yourself down on the hard drive. A hard drive will only read and write at a certain speed, the higher the rpm, the quicker things happen. a 10,000 RPM drive will speed up your computer quite a lot and its not something to be overlooked.

If you wanted to you could then get a larger and slower drive to hold all your media, such as music, photos and porn. Make the 10,000 rpm drive the master drive and make it do all the work.
 
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