All weights with tyres but as you should be aware tyre weights can vary enormously so the table below is indicative only. Where more than one weight is stated an average is calculated. All weights in Kg?s
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P.S. As you can gather I?m not an aficionado on wheels so I will stand corrected on mistakes if you would be so kind as to point them out !
15? VW Stock steelie 16.7
15? VW Avus 2 (std TDI wheels) 16.3
15? VW Avus ?
15? Others TBA Please contribute
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16? VW Stock steelie ?
16? VW <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Montreal</st1lace></st1:City> I?s 17.0
16? VW Montreal II?s 18.0
16? VW Brands hatch 17.0
16? VW Monte carlo 16.0
16? Others TBA Please contribute
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17? VW Santa Monicas 21.0
17? Rep RS4?s 21.8
17? Rep RS6?s ?
17? Audi TT 5 spoke 19.0
17" BBS RX 18.6 (just for Shiuming!!)
17? Others TBA Please contribute
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18? VW Anni?s (BBS) ?
18? VW R32 (Oz) ?
18? Rep RS4?s 23.0
18? Rep RS6?s ?
18? Rep R32?s 26.0
18" Audi A8 reps 23.4
18? Oz super leg?s 18.0
18" Oz ultra leg's 18.0
18? Others TBA Please contribute
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19? Rep RS4?s ?
19? Rep RS6?s ?
19? Rep RS007?s ?
19? Other TBA Please contribute
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20?> TBA You are mad
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Now in weight order for those of which weights are known; (this bit not edited as of 03/01/07)
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16? VW Monte carlo 16.0
15? VW Avus 2 (std TDI wheels) 16.3
15? VW Stock steelie 16.7
16? VW Brands hatch 17.0
18?Oz super leg?s 18.0
17" BBS RX 18.6
17? Audi TT 5 spoke 19.0
17? Rep RS4?s 21.8
18" Rep RS4's 23.0
18? Rep R32?s 26.0
Original post below.
Chaps,
Bit mad this but could you weigh your wheels next time you've got one off the car.
Reason being, heavy wheels (however nice they look) have a significant effect on how your car goes.
Big wheels (like mine) although to a degree improve handling have some very negative side effects, these being;
Slower acceleration
Bad fuel economy
Bad handling (big heavy wheels create a massive gyroscopic effect and also the unsprung weight plays havoc)
Bad ride quality (rubber band tyres + increased unsprung weight = boneshaking)
What I'm trying to decide is what route to go down wheel wise and hopefully if this thread developes will help others (yourself included) choose your next set. I blindly went down the route of "I must have those" without fully investigating the consequences before I did so. My main bugbear is that I'm convinced that the heavy rep RS4's I'm currently running have slaughtered my MPG, and that this is due to the weight of the things. Handling is now devine compared to stock but that's mainly down to Mr Eibach et al although going from 195 wide rubber up to 225 wide has obviously helped. [edit] but added drag and also helped to kill mpg.
The general rule of thumb is that air obviously weighs less than alloy wheel and if you up-size, you are replacing air with alloy = not good.
Obviously BBS's are the daddies but not all of us can justify the expense of them. The ATS DTM's are a lightweight wheel so could be considered but in all honesty don't look that nice. It would also be very interesting to find out how much the OEM wheels weigh (including steelies). I have a sneaking suspicion that the Monty 2's will win out here and that VW may have got it right in the first place.
If you are mad enough to play along with this and plonk ye rims on the bathroom scales on your driveway whilst getting raised eyebrows from your neigbours, please could you post the following info :-
1, Wheel type / make (genuine or rep) etc.
2, Make & size of tyre fitted.
3, Brief comments on how you rate yer rims, what effect they have had on the car. etc
Also, if you don't want to weigh yours or think I'm talking rubbish here, I'd more than welcome the debate and would be very interested to hear your views. Please contribute.
[2nd edit]
Thought I'd practice what I preach and I've just been out and weighed my wheels, the results are :-
Wheel = AVUS II; 15.8kg with Michelin Pilot Primacies 195x65x15 on 1.6mm tread
Wheel = AVUS II; 16.9kg with 'Corsa65' cheapy specials 195x65x15 on 7mm tread.
Wheel = Stock steelie; 17.7kg with Dunlop? 195x65x15 on 3mm tread
Wheel = RS4 (rep); 21.8kg with Cooper Avons 225x45x17 on 4mm tread.
Comments; AVUS II's stock wheels, good mpg, poor grip probably due to tyre choice and width.
Steelies; no comment, don't know
RS4 rep 17"; Great grip, poo mpg, ride quality as stock (running -30mm eibachs + sachs gas sport dampers as well)
Quite a difference me thinks.
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P.S. As you can gather I?m not an aficionado on wheels so I will stand corrected on mistakes if you would be so kind as to point them out !
15? VW Stock steelie 16.7
15? VW Avus 2 (std TDI wheels) 16.3
15? VW Avus ?
15? Others TBA Please contribute
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16? VW Stock steelie ?
16? VW <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Montreal</st1lace></st1:City> I?s 17.0
16? VW Montreal II?s 18.0
16? VW Brands hatch 17.0
16? VW Monte carlo 16.0
16? Others TBA Please contribute
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17? VW Santa Monicas 21.0
17? Rep RS4?s 21.8
17? Rep RS6?s ?
17? Audi TT 5 spoke 19.0
17" BBS RX 18.6 (just for Shiuming!!)
17? Others TBA Please contribute
<o> </o>
18? VW Anni?s (BBS) ?
18? VW R32 (Oz) ?
18? Rep RS4?s 23.0
18? Rep RS6?s ?
18? Rep R32?s 26.0
18" Audi A8 reps 23.4
18? Oz super leg?s 18.0
18" Oz ultra leg's 18.0
18? Others TBA Please contribute
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19? Rep RS4?s ?
19? Rep RS6?s ?
19? Rep RS007?s ?
19? Other TBA Please contribute
<o> </o>
20?> TBA You are mad
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Now in weight order for those of which weights are known; (this bit not edited as of 03/01/07)
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16? VW Monte carlo 16.0
15? VW Avus 2 (std TDI wheels) 16.3
15? VW Stock steelie 16.7
16? VW Brands hatch 17.0
18?Oz super leg?s 18.0
17" BBS RX 18.6
17? Audi TT 5 spoke 19.0
17? Rep RS4?s 21.8
18" Rep RS4's 23.0
18? Rep R32?s 26.0
Original post below.
Chaps,
Bit mad this but could you weigh your wheels next time you've got one off the car.
Reason being, heavy wheels (however nice they look) have a significant effect on how your car goes.
Big wheels (like mine) although to a degree improve handling have some very negative side effects, these being;
Slower acceleration
Bad fuel economy
Bad handling (big heavy wheels create a massive gyroscopic effect and also the unsprung weight plays havoc)
Bad ride quality (rubber band tyres + increased unsprung weight = boneshaking)
What I'm trying to decide is what route to go down wheel wise and hopefully if this thread developes will help others (yourself included) choose your next set. I blindly went down the route of "I must have those" without fully investigating the consequences before I did so. My main bugbear is that I'm convinced that the heavy rep RS4's I'm currently running have slaughtered my MPG, and that this is due to the weight of the things. Handling is now devine compared to stock but that's mainly down to Mr Eibach et al although going from 195 wide rubber up to 225 wide has obviously helped. [edit] but added drag and also helped to kill mpg.
The general rule of thumb is that air obviously weighs less than alloy wheel and if you up-size, you are replacing air with alloy = not good.
Obviously BBS's are the daddies but not all of us can justify the expense of them. The ATS DTM's are a lightweight wheel so could be considered but in all honesty don't look that nice. It would also be very interesting to find out how much the OEM wheels weigh (including steelies). I have a sneaking suspicion that the Monty 2's will win out here and that VW may have got it right in the first place.
If you are mad enough to play along with this and plonk ye rims on the bathroom scales on your driveway whilst getting raised eyebrows from your neigbours, please could you post the following info :-
1, Wheel type / make (genuine or rep) etc.
2, Make & size of tyre fitted.
3, Brief comments on how you rate yer rims, what effect they have had on the car. etc
Also, if you don't want to weigh yours or think I'm talking rubbish here, I'd more than welcome the debate and would be very interested to hear your views. Please contribute.
[2nd edit]
Thought I'd practice what I preach and I've just been out and weighed my wheels, the results are :-
Wheel = AVUS II; 15.8kg with Michelin Pilot Primacies 195x65x15 on 1.6mm tread
Wheel = AVUS II; 16.9kg with 'Corsa65' cheapy specials 195x65x15 on 7mm tread.
Wheel = Stock steelie; 17.7kg with Dunlop? 195x65x15 on 3mm tread
Wheel = RS4 (rep); 21.8kg with Cooper Avons 225x45x17 on 4mm tread.
Comments; AVUS II's stock wheels, good mpg, poor grip probably due to tyre choice and width.
Steelies; no comment, don't know
RS4 rep 17"; Great grip, poo mpg, ride quality as stock (running -30mm eibachs + sachs gas sport dampers as well)
Quite a difference me thinks.