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Quote: posted by Chris on 20/01/2005 19:01:40

Quote: posted by rob.gti on 20/01/2005 17:15:07

Quote: posted by Doc on 20/01/2005 17:03:45

Quote: posted by marriedblonde on 20/01/2005 16:05:14

?19K for a 2 year old golf with 27K isn't exactley a bargain is it though?

Precisely my thoughts....hardly think its a price drop, that looks more like holding steady[;)]

With Leather/alcantara etc, that car would have been ?21000 just before xmas IMO.

Demand for the R32 is not as high as it was either. VW bought my R32 back of mee back in September, it only sold last week! ? months on the forecourt would say Demand isnt there.

However, Demand for the New GTI is extremely high, with Delivery dates of May/June being quoted!! The R32 has to drop in price so that Dealers can shift them.

(BTW it was a Feb 2004, Reflex Silver with only 8000 miles on the clock and the dealers had it up for ?21995.)

Did VW offer you a job or something? It's clear you like the MK5, but you seem to have a somewhat blinkered and one-sided opinion towards it mate.

Eh??? Care to explain?

I was amazed to see an R32 on a VW forecourt for under ?19000. Why does that make me blinkered????

I love both the R32 and the GTI, so why would I be one sided? Do me a favour, dont call me mate!! [:(!]
 

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Sheesh!

For those of you who want an R32 but couldn't afford or justify the expense to begin with, things are looking good for you!

Those of us that have R32's already, as dubzter has said with depreciation at roughly 20% over 2/3 years, that's not bad so don't worry! Anyway, you're not really thinking of selling it are you?!

Yes prices have dropped, partly because of the new GTI and partly because prices do come down as the cars get older, have more mileage etc etc.

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Chris - saying "Did VW offer you a job or something" is kinda inciting IMHO - hardly a diplomatic approach.

As for the price drop on R32s - it's an age / mileage and demand driven cause.

We all fall for the marketing hype, don't we (me included).

There are some very decent 'older' cars about, but we still buy the latest and newest 'toy'.

For me, in part at least, i have to have a reliable car with a resonable 'image' for business use - having the VW warranty and low mileage is an obvious benefit.

We're talking about R32's here, but set the clock back 6/8 years, and we'd be saying the same thing about selling your hypothetical beloved VR6, to get a new 'turbo' GTi......

It's an inevitable cycle.

The R32 is a one-off, a masterpiece, and like the Playstation2, will likely only be seen to give it's best in it's later life, once it's hidden talents have been exposed by the tuning / modding boys.
 

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Yikes!!

I made an attempt at selling mine, was offered what I thougt was cack money so am TRAGICALLY keeping it for a while.

Oh the suffering...!

Rob - You do seem very pro mk5 GTI and not very pro R32, although the above comment was not the right way to put it!
 

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Quote: posted by Foxy on 21/01/2005 11:51:43

but we still buy the latest and newest 'toy'.

Exactly

A large proportion of R32s were bought by people after the latest thing, not specific VW enthusiasts. The R is no longer the latest thing, so they sell up and buy the next one. The R is still a decent car and now its good news for everyone - depreciation is still pretty good, and now people who want to spend ?17k can afford one. R owners needn't be upset IMO, they've had their moneys worth - hopefully now, dealers will stop putting examples on the forecourt at ?25k (see Poole VW)!
 

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Quote: posted by sutherlandm on 21/01/2005 14:55:14

Yikes!!

I made an attempt at selling mine, was offered what I thougt was cack money so am TRAGICALLY keeping it for a while.

Oh the suffering...!

Rob - You do seem very pro mk5 GTI and not very pro R32, although the above comment was not the right way to put it!

At what point have I slagged off the R32?

Jezz! I really dont know why I bother! Getting worse than CGTI forum! [V]
 

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Quote: posted by sutherlandm on 21/01/2005 14:55:14

Rob - You do seem very pro mk5 GTI and not very pro R32, although the above comment was not the right way to put it!

How can Rob be against the R32 when he actually used to own one?! It wasn't his choice to sell it but now feels it's time to move on to newer pastures. I'm happy with the R32 at the moment, as are a lot of others but some people like to move on...

And as I've been told by several people before you can't compare the R32 with the new GTI so the price drop of the R32 is irrelevant really because the Mk 5 isn't actually the R32 replacement. It is however the next newest thing with all the toys and fancy bits so instead of people buying an old shape car with all the toys they decide to go for something newer with the same toys.
 

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A large proportion of R32s were bought by people after the latest thing, not specific VW enthusiasts. The R is no longer the latest thing, so they sell up and buy the next one. The R is still a decent car and now its good news for everyone - depreciation is still pretty good, and now people who want to spend ?17k can afford one.

summed up perfectly. this is not a "slag the R" thread, its merely pointing out that the GTi will take sales because people will always be after the best/latest performance Golf. for dealers to be selling R32's at 23/24k is ridiculous bearing in mind the brand new cost. thats not a comment about the car, merely that depreciation is a fact of life, much like tax and death [;)]
 

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Quote: posted by rob.gti on 21/01/2005 15:41:35

Quote: posted by sutherlandm on 21/01/2005 14:55:14

Yikes!!

I made an attempt at selling mine, was offered what I thougt was cack money so am TRAGICALLY keeping it for a while.

Oh the suffering...!

Rob - You do seem very pro mk5 GTI and not very pro R32, although the above comment was not the right way to put it!

At what point have I slagged off the R32?

Jezz! I really dont know why I bother! Getting worse than CGTI forum! [V]

Rob, deep breaths! [:I]

CGTI Forum?! That's still going?! [:eek:)]

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R32 rocks..... am test driving a new GTi this weekend! Not that I want one but in my opinion it does not match up to the R and is a very different vehicle. The centre console in the MKv is F in annoying as it does not provide me with a comfortable driving style (but that is for me)

If I were to trade in/sell etc etc I would be looking for

a) R36?????

b) RS4?

c) Toureg?

d) keep it and buy a TDi run-around

But as it stands I am more than happy with the performance and enjoyment from the R and at the end of the day a car is always worth what you to believe it to be - unless you are a complete spanner and enjoy over paying for the latest toy - I wonder how many people paid top wack for a Robosapien for Xmas ( I paid < ?55 ) as that was what I beleived it to be worth at the time.

Having had company cars in the past, I have it in my head that I will never outright own a car (unless of course my redundancy payoff comes through) but there will always be some value to you, rather than a leasing company.
 

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Rob - Calm down!

You have repeatedly stated how you think the GTI is a lot better than the R (no a direct slad off, but not far from it) and although you had an R (a semed to LOVE it to bits at the time), the circumstances under which you got rid of it (i.e.total bad luck) would lead me to think you would prefer to distance yourself from it.

You'll either agree or throw a total fit now.

The GTI and R are both great, but they are quite different. End of story.
 

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Quote: posted by sutherlandm on 21/01/2005 16:30:19

Rob - Calm down!

You have repeatedly stated how you think the GTI is a lot better than the R (no a direct slad off, but not far from it) and although you had an R (a semed to LOVE it to bits at the time), the circumstances under which you got rid of it (i.e.total bad luck) would lead me to think you would prefer to distance yourself from it.

You'll either agree or throw a total fit now.

The GTI and R are both great, but they are quite different. End of story.

Thats rich mate!

And as for distancing myself from the R! What a crock of poo pooe! If I owned one still, I would be chopping it in for a GTI. Running costs alone on the R32 were enough to swing it for me. But the GTI is a fantastic car, the R32 was great no question, but for all round package - the GTI wins hands down.

Ask yourself how many Awards the R32 won...... that would be none. Its a fantastic car, but it is not a car for everyone. I know a bloke who owned a V6 4 motion and trasded it in for a R32, 3 days later he went back and got his old car back!! The R32 is great, but it primerily designed as a Track car. For normal Joe Bloggs, the GTI is far more suitable.

No salgging off... Just fact.
 
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