[benjytrainer]

hello all.

quick question - I noticed some of you have the AmD mod to bring the R32 to about 270 bhp, whereas I've seen an APR mod that takes it to 260 bhp.

obviously the bhp is the be all and end all, however, which mod do you lot have, and which is recognised as being the better one ?

finally, what are the effects on warranty and insurance ? I've heard the APR is encrypted and can't be spotted by a dealer ...

benj

 

[MikeP]

APR

 

[Foxy]

Currently, I don't know of anyone having issues with AMDs R32 conversions......

 

[Gti Fly]

Lot's of Happy AMD'd R32 owners here, Including myself. I've only heard of one recent R32 owner who after AMD'ing wasn't that impressed with the power..

APR owners aplenty too, but I have now read that quite a few (atleast 3 or 4) of them have had problems so far with ECU's locking up, and not allowing further access etc.

I'd wait and see if those APR owners could share their experiences though to get the fuller picture

 

[Martyn]

Ok here is my 2p's worth...

APR is a fantastic product. But ATM apr's map for the R32 is still based on the old vw software.

This means if you have vw's version 6 on your car (and we all know how good that is!) you will be turning back to the older software version if you apr your car.

I went over to awesome on monday to get my car done, and I had a good chat with jim.

In the end I left my car in stock code and jim downloaded my vw v6 code and sent it to apr in america.

APR are going to see if they can overlay their code on top off v6....

Phone awesome and have a chat with Jim about it if you are not sure...

Hope this helps..

 

[The Walrus]

Also just a small note APR power claim is without the Milltek exhaust, you will find that AMD use the Milltek to achieve 270 at additional cost to the chip.

 

[bigmeanbob]

Depends where you are as well....for me AMD would be a 600mile round trip...

Star performance are 1 hour away....

Although to be honest, APR themselves have been incredibly unhelpful at helping me out over the last couple of weeks....basically refusing to answer my questions and telling me they aren't planning on doing any more testing blah blah blah. Also denying the Locked ECU issues that everyone is aware of....

Ah well, I'm glad Awesome are on the case at least...maybe they will have more luck than I did..

b0b

 

[Martyn]

What are the locked ECU issues????

I havn't heard this one?

 

[Doc]

Quote: posted by benjytrainer on 06/10/2004 23:06:52

hello all.

quick question - I noticed some of you have the AmD mod to bring the R32 to about 270 bhp, whereas I've seen an APR mod that takes it to 260 bhp.

This has been debated and I can't seem to find the thread I originally started which would be useful to read....its was a poll then comments and useful insights from many people on the topic.....I'll post the link when I locate it......[] or someone else does

 

[The Walrus]

Have a read of this it will help.

http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35182&SearchTerms=APR,or,AMD

 

[Gti Fly]

Quote: posted by Martyn on 07/10/2004 10:11:12

What are the locked ECU issues????

I havn't heard this one?

Tombee - we need your experience of this matter!

 

[Tabs]

Some people have experienced issues when having the update applied at the dealer, if they're APR'd. Basicially looks like the ECU is locked and wont accept a new flash. Means a new ECU is in order... all under (VW) warranty of course.

Of course AmD circumvent this issue by offering the update as part of their package. Something APR need to follow suit with IMO as they're loosing business from it.

We've not heard of someone with AmD code going to a dealer for the update though, as I'd be interested to see what happens []

 

[The Walrus]

AMD offer it as part of their package ? I heard they charge for the update is this no longer the case ????

 

[Doc]

Quote: posted by The Walrus on 07/10/2004 14:07:46

AMD offer it as part of their package ? I heard they charge for the update is this no longer the case ????

Walrus thanks for posting the link, you're a sweetie after all[)][]

During my discussions with AmD any subsequent updates were free, obviously to those who have had their remaps of course.

 

[dubzter]

I had to have my ecu replaced after the APR trial before it would take the v6 software

 

[Golfgirl]

Quote: posted by Gti Fly on 06/10/2004 23:26:59

Lot's of Happy AMD'd R32 owners here, Including myself. I've only heard of one recent R32 owner who after AMD'ing wasn't that impressed with the power..

That would be me then[:I] Just to update you briefly (will explain all in my AMD results thread) the car drives a lot better now and I'm finally happy with the results.

I chose AMD for several reasons, mainly because it was the package that suited me better (I had the remap and exhaust done in one visit). I researched the pro's & con's of APR v AMD for a couple of months, as well as considering other options and came to the conclusion that there was not really any difference in quoted power figures between AMD and APR.

I have had the APR trial and must admit the car felt quicker than the AMD remap I've had.

As for insurance - well it's up to you what you declare. Some people have declared everything, other people have taken the opinion that the insurance company don't need to know as it's not traceable. Both AMD and APR claim that the remap is undetectable.

AMD also say that if VW ever reset the ECU or try to download software onto it and it loses the remap as a result, then just take the car back and they will do the remap again FOC. They also have good relationships with quite a few VW dealers and quite often do work for them that they can't do themselves.[]

 

[Doc]

Golfgirl, glad to hear things are better now[]

 

[Royster]

I've not had problems with my AmD map, always really helpful, sometimes don't respond to emails but Ed told me they get hundreds of emails a week so try to respond soonest.. Nothing a phone call wouldn't solve... They are only 25 miles from me so that helped.

 

[The Walrus]

Dont push your luck Doc []

Quote: posted by Doc on 07/10/2004 14:43:36

Walrus thanks for posting the link, you're a sweetie after all[)][]

During my discussions with AmD any subsequent updates were free, obviously to those who have had their remaps of course.