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having one mouse button is a hard thing to come by..

os wise, much more reliable, but cracked games/programs are pretty much non existant... Not that we would ever consider using a cracked program/demo
 

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Speaking as an IT Consultant, if you know what your doing, i.e you can
build PC's and sort out Windows properly, you'll find that High Spec
Custom built PC's are just as fast as the latest G5s. Mac's are just
for people that want a nice looking computer 'off the shelf' with no BS
and generally wouldn't have a clue to design a 'sorted' PC.
 

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Speaking as an IT Consultant, if you know what your doing, i.e you can build PC's and sort out Windows properly, you'll find that High Spec Custom built PC's are just as fast as the latest G5s. Mac's are just for people that want a nice looking computer 'off the shelf' with no BS and generally wouldn't have a clue to design a 'sorted' PC.
Well said[Y]
 

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"Mac's are just for people that want a nice looking computer 'off the shelf'"... dont be daft!

The OS is ridiculously stable and intuitive. They are solid as a rock and use memory very efficiantly, which is the sole reason why they are used for designers and print/production worldwide.

To say that people just buy them because its a simple and easy 'nice looking' solution is bizarre..... bit like buying a Ferrari eh... whats the point, it's too good out of the box, why not make one from a Fiat Panda instead, MUCH more fun ;)
 

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"Mac's are just for people that want a nice looking computer 'off the shelf'"... dont be daft! The OS is ridiculously stable and intuitive. They are solid as a rock and use memory very efficiantly, which is the sole reason why they are used for designers and print/production worldwide. To say that people just buy them because its a simple and easy 'nice looking' solution is bizarre..... bit like buying a Ferrari eh... whats the point, it's too good out of the box, why not make one from a Fiat Panda instead, MUCH more fun ;)
also every audio studio used macs... logic is only operational on macs..

i agree a pc can be made to same standard, but the windows os is nothing on macs os...linux is an option but again up to you..

personally for production, mac is the way, but thats because the studio has macs, i can't afford a mac so a pc is what i have and will have to have[:)]
 

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Chris, I don't think you understood my previous reply properly. I have never said they are a bad performing machine.

Greg, yes it seems Mac's are the choice for many Studio owners, I know
a few in London with their dual G5's, but believe me, once you have all
those plug-ins running in Logic, they still crash, regardless of memory
size.

A friend of mine who is also fairly competent with PC's is a music
producer so no surprises he went for a PC with Cubase. The whole system
cost around ?500-800 less than the equivalent G5 and I believe it runs
faster, purely because he knows what specific components to buy and how to turn Windows into something usable.
 

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Right, having been a PC fan all my life (had one since I was 15 - 286 days) I have to vote PC in terms of general usage and games. When I first played around with Macs at uni I hated the damn things, especially the one button mouse.

Fast forward a few years, and I think Apple have done an excellent job of marketing the new Macs and the design speaks for itself (some may say style over substance, but the PC market has quickly followed binning the old beige boxes)

Up to recently, I've been doing most stuff on a PC and applications are easier and cheaper to come by on a PC. I'm a web developer (not Designer) but I do dabble with graphics quite a bit and for most of the time the PC version of Photoshop is suffucient. That is until I started playing around with the Mac version and noticed how much more quicker it performed tasks and especially the way it load fonts conpared to a PC.

Mac OS X is also a beaut to use and I think Win XP can learn one or 2 things from it. Having memories of the old Mac OS from uni days, this totally changed my perception of it and it is now very easy to use and stable (it always was) and I think its also VERY fast!

Until recently I had an iBook G4 and it was one of the best laptops I've used.

If it weren't for the fact that PC are so easy to build and repair/replace, I certainly would consider the Mac.

(BTW Chris, I sold it for ?385 in the end.)
 

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I work in the design industry and have always used macs so unsurprisingly I chose mac over pc at home as well but I think a lot of PC owners would be surprised at how good they are for day to day home use... ie internet, digi photos, music etc

I believe most of the big animation houses ie pixar etc use macs and I also read somewhere that Microsoft provided Pcs running G5 processors rather than pentiums to the software developers for xbox 2
 

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Question,

Why does the new Microsoft Console have the same processor as the new Macs,
well actually it has 3 of them but only cost (approx) ?250 when a top
end Mac will set you back over ?1000.

That pretty box really does cost you !
 

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Perhaps because console manufacturers ALWAYS make a
massive loss on the system itself, and look to make money from software
sales?
What unlike those massive profits made by Apple?

Also, have a look a this

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000440043836/

As you can see from the last picture the XBox demos were all running on
Mac's !! I suspect the processor is more similar that you think.
 

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This is a very interesting debate and one im interested in now. Im planning my next computer upgrade.

I've been offered a dual 1.8ghz G5 for a reasonably price but slightly concerned that its now a dropped model. How long would it be good for?

The other choice is for me to build my own (I've done quite a few now so could be classed as competent). I was looking at using one of the new athlon x2 dual core processors. I like this idea because i can use the hard drives from my current pc and so save a few quid. Or I could sell it all together and use the money to buy the G5.

Im tempted by the Mac just because Ive always used PC's and would be curious to see what its like.
 
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