oh no not again..... prepare for a long thread.

P.S i would test drive both and see which suits you're driving style.

 

sorry, dont mean to start this again, i have read many posts on this already, lol, too many really, but cudnt really find the answers i was looking for

oh, and anyone want to let me test drive your cars? []

 

its similar to the old 8v v 16v thread that used to run every now and again in the dark ages.

They are both fastish and fun, my preference is petrol, just because im a bit old school.

 

What are you looking for in your car?

 

The 1.8T would most likely be a little faster - but have around half the mpg of the tdi (if this matters to you). All depends on how you drive and which you prefer really though.

 

I havent driven a 1.8t so can't comment.

 

i think im swaying more towards the diesel more, just because i dont wanna have to spend a fortune on petrol, rather spend it on other things, like me car! haha (if the fuel costs were the same i would go for petrol any day because i do like how they sound, and those burbles, ooohhhhhhh so lovely)

but yea like golf mad says, the only true way to know is to test drive them both

 

is there any difference between the pd 150 and the anni 150 engine? are they exactly the same performance wise or not?

 

I had a remapped 130 and now have a 1.8T and wouldnt go back to diesel. My 130 was silly fast in the boost range and returned 45mpg around town and 60mpg on a run where the 1.8T doesn't compare, but for driving fun i'd have a 1.8T everytime (my wallet would have a diesel everytime!).

 

1.6 8v will muller rice both of them

 

I have not driven a 1.8T either but i was in this situation just before i bought my tdi! the only thing that made me go for the diesel was my long commute to work..
It is a debate which one is faster but i would have thought the petrol would be nicely balanced

 

the choice would diesel for me

 

i like my diesel pd150 and having driven my bro's 1.8t seat cupra which i think is essentially the same engine i'd choose the diesel

the petrol is a hoot to drive (his is quite mapped up) but the poor fuel economy would make me cry everytime i put my foot down!

with mine, as said, you get 45+ mpg in town with sensible driving, 55 at least on the motorway and even when you give it the beans it never really drops much! oh and i love the torque of the diesel, typical example 6th gear cruising along at 50mph in a avg speed cam zone in cheltenham on the m5, as soon as it finishes, just a light prod of the throttle and back up to 80 in 6th still with hardly any effort

 

i can compare my dads mk5 2.0TDI 140ps to my 1.8T 150ps and i've got to saymy dads car feels quiker. The torque in the GT TDI is emmense and compared to my 1.8T's lag it will burn it off mid range but i rekon i would have it top end.

 

The 1.8T has a quicker 0-60 time. This is achieved because the diesel runs out of puff lower down, meaning you'd lose more time changing gear. Both are 150BHP standard. When mapped, the 1.8T comes out better with 200BHP+ being achieveable, whereas I believe the diesel makes about 175BHP ish on mapping alone.

The bottom line IMO is that petrol is smoother, faster and more tunable, but the DERV is better on fuel at the expense of these things.

Wigster.

 

before i bought my bora i test drove a 1.8t and an 150 diesel. an i have to say that the 1.8t was slightly better to drive. but one thing you have to ask yourself is realistically how much use is it going to get because if you have a long commute then the diesel is going to be easier on the pocket but if it is only a short commute petrol is cheaper by the litre. But at the end of the day it personal preference mate

 

My old 150PD made 205bhp after a remap

 

personally id choose the pd150

 

i prefer the torque the diesel engines kick out.. plus you have that extra gear..

 

Id probly say the 1,8t getting to a certain speed such as 60 as the rev ranges are longer. Diesel wouldnt be very far behind.

Overtaking, id probly say the diesel would have a slight upper hand as the petrol would need to get to boost range depending on how fast you were going proir to overtake, diesel boost would most likely be instananeous.

Never driven them both, so its just a educated guess really.

 

IMO get the 1.8T, who really cares about fuel consumption anyway, when does it cross your mind while driving to work? Its not like the 1.8T is a fuel guzzler anyway

 

[] lets not let this turn into another never-ending derv vs petrol debate! []

The lad asked which would be faster with a simple remap. Answer: petrol with 200+ bhp most times, vs derv's 185-190ish.

MPG wise? derv will be around double that of the petrol, maybe a little more than that.

Apart from that, not matter how much us derv owners like to think, a well modified 1.8T will always be quicker than our tdi's, but we obviously have them for the other benifits they offer []

 

i prefer the torque the diesel engines kick out.. plus you have that extra gear..

AUQ []

 

PD 150 might only do forty mpg if driven hard and fast (not my driving style)

Petrol golf will not do the city mpg if warming up- runs on choke or whatever it's called for fuel injection... rich mixture

So short journeys may use a lot of petrol

 

The 1.8T has a quicker 0-60 time. This is achieved because the diesel runs out of puff lower down, meaning you'd lose more time changing gear. Both are 150BHP standard. When mapped, the 1.8T comes out better with 200BHP+ being achieveable, whereas I believe the diesel makes about 175BHP ish on mapping alone.

The bottom line IMO is that petrol is smoother, faster and more tunable, but the DERV is better on fuel at the expense of these things.

Wigster.

lets not let this turn into another never-ending derv vs petrol debate!

The lad asked which would be faster with a simple remap. Answer: petrol with 200+ bhp most times, vs derv's 185-190ish.

MPG wise? derv will be around double that of the petrol, maybe a little more than that.

Apart from that, not matter how much us derv owners like to think, a well modified 1.8T will always be quicker than our tdi's, but we obviously have them for the other benifits they offer

You both focus on the BHP figures, not really fair as the diesel is about power, it's about torque.What are the figures for BHP AND torque on these two engines, standard and remapped?

I went for a diesel over petrol as I had an Octavia vRS before the Golf, and it didn't really feel how I was expecting a bossted car to feel, very linear, no kick like my old R5 GTT. Admitedly it was standard so running relativley low boost, but on comparison, I prefer the PD130 lump in my Golf to the 180ghp 20v in the Skoda. On the road, it doesn't really feel noticeably slower, in fact I find the low down torque more useful .

At the end of the day, it's horses for courses, drive them both and see what YOU prefer.