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Am thinking of changing up to either of the above. What sort of BHP / Torque figures are people getting from those engines and what mods and cost have been done to achieve it?
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Performance from 130/150 BHP PD
Mk4 Golf
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they are both the same size engine 1.9 so thats probably why when tuned there aint much difference, the 150 has a bigger intercooler and a slightly modded turbo so the 150 will always have a little more power when tuned
i reckon in the real world a 130 will tuned to 175 ish and a 150 185 ish
i reckon in the real world a 130 will tuned to 175 ish and a 150 185 ish
Hypothetically speaking - if the 130 and 150 both seem to put out more than their quoted figures out of the box, ie. 140 and 160, we'll say, and then you put 30000 or so miles on the clock which should add an extra 10bph each, thats brings them up to 150 and 170, so surely there is little point in chipping ?
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
Quote: posted by JimmyC on 13/08/2004 00:46:45
Hypothetically speaking - if the 130 and 150 both seem to put out more than their quoted figures out of the box, ie. 140 and 160, we'll say, and then you put 30000 or so miles on the clock which should add an extra 10bph each, thats brings them up to 150 and 170, so surely there is little point in chipping ?
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
yes there is a point in chipping it, it does make a huge difference on the road, especially to a 130. lets say your car is pushing out 160bhp, you chip it , then it should have approx 185bhp and another 60 or 70 lb ft torque.
Hypothetically speaking - if the 130 and 150 both seem to put out more than their quoted figures out of the box, ie. 140 and 160, we'll say, and then you put 30000 or so miles on the clock which should add an extra 10bph each, thats brings them up to 150 and 170, so surely there is little point in chipping ?
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
yes there is a point in chipping it, it does make a huge difference on the road, especially to a 130. lets say your car is pushing out 160bhp, you chip it , then it should have approx 185bhp and another 60 or 70 lb ft torque.
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There is a massive difference between a standard 150 and a remapped car, my car estimated at 190+ but it's not just the ego boosting figures that are important, the car drives, revs, feels far superior to when it was in standard tune.
Advantage of going for a 150 would be a few extra luxuries (age dependant) and VW sports suspension (not brilliant but better than standard)and also the extra 10 or so BHP, 10BHP is a lot and you would notice the difference if it was your daily drive, just my opinion which of course is biased [
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Advantage of going for a 150 would be a few extra luxuries (age dependant) and VW sports suspension (not brilliant but better than standard)and also the extra 10 or so BHP, 10BHP is a lot and you would notice the difference if it was your daily drive, just my opinion which of course is biased [
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Thanks for all comments. How rapid does it the chipped car end up being compared to the 1.8T tuned up?
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[?]So you gonna get one [?]
Quote: posted by JimmyC on 13/08/2004 00:46:45
Hypothetically speaking - if the 130 and 150 both seem to put out more than their quoted figures out of the box, ie. 140 and 160, we'll say, and then you put 30000 or so miles on the clock which should add an extra 10bph each, thats brings them up to 150 and 170, so surely there is little point in chipping ?
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
If 30,000 miles adds an extra 10bhp because of loosening up, the remap will still be on top of this. Borat has hit 50k now, and she absolutely flies. Might be going to a RR day soon, so will find out what she's pushing out then.
I'm still waiting for someone to come along and say RRs aren't accurate... []
Hypothetically speaking - if the 130 and 150 both seem to put out more than their quoted figures out of the box, ie. 140 and 160, we'll say, and then you put 30000 or so miles on the clock which should add an extra 10bph each, thats brings them up to 150 and 170, so surely there is little point in chipping ?
Would you notice the difference between a well run-in 150 and a new chipped 130 ?
I have wanted to remap my car since i got it (150 PD) and wonder now, with 35,000 on the clock if there is any point spending nearly ?1,000 on a REVO remap and switch, for what would seem is a minimal power gain.
If 30,000 miles adds an extra 10bhp because of loosening up, the remap will still be on top of this. Borat has hit 50k now, and she absolutely flies. Might be going to a RR day soon, so will find out what she's pushing out then.
I'm still waiting for someone to come along and say RRs aren't accurate... [
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probably. The local stealer has offered to wash my car while I test drive something on sunday and they have an 03 GT TDI so I think I might go for a spin [].... And still interested in the garage that I spoke to who said they could easily supply and fit a 150pd engine from a write off into my 1.6 for under 2 grand. And I've got a reasonable insurance quote!!! [] might save shelling out 16k that the stealer wants for the 03 GT TDI
].... And still interested in the garage that I spoke to who said they could easily supply and fit a 150pd engine from a write off into my 1.6 for under 2 grand. And I've got a reasonable insurance quote!!! [] might save shelling out 16k that the stealer wants for the 03 GT TDI
All these figures are pub talk as far as I'm concerned.
My car after 30k with the std map and a milltek turbo back system only produced 150bhp. The remap took it to 185 and 275lbs/ft. But then again my car must run like a dog as I'm not getting these micky mouse figures that others claim. I've had my car on 2 different dyno's with very different figures.
So I would have to disagree with NikB when he says dyno's are accurate. Variable definitely.
My car after 30k with the std map and a milltek turbo back system only produced 150bhp. The remap took it to 185 and 275lbs/ft. But then again my car must run like a dog as I'm not getting these micky mouse figures that others claim. I've had my car on 2 different dyno's with very different figures.
So I would have to disagree with NikB when he says dyno's are accurate. Variable definitely.
Quote: posted by Paul_Christy on 13/08/2004 19:35:31
<snip>....still interested in the garage that I spoke to who said they could easily supply and fit a 150pd engine from a write off into my 1.6 for under 2 grand.....
...and I bet he'd chip it for ?20 too.......[)]
Seriously though, figures aren't everything - it's how the car drives afterwards. You want smooth power delivery without any jerks or hesitation, better to ask those who've got a chipped car if they'd do it again, was it really worth it?
<snip>....still interested in the garage that I spoke to who said they could easily supply and fit a 150pd engine from a write off into my 1.6 for under 2 grand.....
...and I bet he'd chip it for ?20 too.......[
)]Seriously though, figures aren't everything - it's how the car drives afterwards. You want smooth power delivery without any jerks or hesitation, better to ask those who've got a chipped car if they'd do it again, was it really worth it?
DC why don't you ever believe that dynos are accurate? I'm not saying they're correct but on the day and under those circumstances they are accurate for the measurement they obtain. I know many are over optimistic in their figures but that's because of the variables not the software that does the maths.
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