as the title suggests i am a new owner of a v6 4motion. it is a 2001 model with 30k on the clock and is standard. i have just sold my 2004 subaru wrx and would like to improve the 4motion to get it a little closer to the wrx. what should i do first as it is a standard car?[8)]
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Its probably best to go with the best, so avoid lowering springs and find a decent set of coilovers and ARBs to stiff her up a little.
Then i'd look for something on the induction/exhaust side to get her breathing and sounding better. But to get closer to and beyond a WRX, you should really look at some form of forced induction on the V6. - But that will cost!!!
Then i'd look for something on the induction/exhaust side to get her breathing and sounding better. But to get closer to and beyond a WRX, you should really look at some form of forced induction on the V6. - But that will cost!!!
Right to days specialist subject is 4motion!
Yep handling needs doing
1. get some r32 anti roll bars, quite cheap from the dealers around ?200
2. get some decent shockies/springs here there are only really 2 routes
one get some used R32 stuff a few people on here have done it and it is VERY efective and still OEM around ?200-?300 on
ebay
two get some coilovers eithere FK konigsports or bilstein PS99's both are very highly rated and most people agree they
are better and as smooth as the R32 stuff around ?400 to ?700 (I got mine for ?150 of ebay)
3. get some forge motor sport camber adjusters for the rear as going lower than 35 mm causes the rear camber to go way out about ?250
4. get a very good laser 4 wheel alignment done
5 if you have the th 16inch brands hatch and marble like michelins, bin them fro some 17's or 18's go for 17 inch anta monicas if you want the standard OEM look
I personally have fk konigsports, 17 inch VW evolos with michelin pilot sports, I am waiting for R32 arb's and my own fabricated camber arms
Yep handling needs doing
1. get some r32 anti roll bars, quite cheap from the dealers around ?200
2. get some decent shockies/springs here there are only really 2 routes
one get some used R32 stuff a few people on here have done it and it is VERY efective and still OEM around ?200-?300 on
ebay
two get some coilovers eithere FK konigsports or bilstein PS99's both are very highly rated and most people agree they
are better and as smooth as the R32 stuff around ?400 to ?700 (I got mine for ?150 of ebay)
3. get some forge motor sport camber adjusters for the rear as going lower than 35 mm causes the rear camber to go way out about ?250
4. get a very good laser 4 wheel alignment done
5 if you have the th 16inch brands hatch and marble like michelins, bin them fro some 17's or 18's go for 17 inch anta monicas if you want the standard OEM look
I personally have fk konigsports, 17 inch VW evolos with michelin pilot sports, I am waiting for R32 arb's and my own fabricated camber arms
Welcome, to an expensive but satisfiying world [
]
As everyone has said... suspension is a must... IMO R32 suspension is a bit too bone shakey, good but very firm.
Personal choice, DECENT coilovers (Koni/KW/FK) preferably height AND damping adjust) Plus r32 front and rear anti roll bars. As mentioned if you go for a decent drop then you will need some forge (or suchlike) adjustable rear arms to give you camber adjust)
Then - Supercharge or turbo!! Have driven an S/C 4mo and was well impressed with the power hike. []
Check these vids for what the turbo can do:[][][]
http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/vw_a4_24v_vr6_turbo_stage_2.html
]As everyone has said... suspension is a must... IMO R32 suspension is a bit too bone shakey, good but very firm.
Personal choice, DECENT coilovers (Koni/KW/FK) preferably height AND damping adjust) Plus r32 front and rear anti roll bars. As mentioned if you go for a decent drop then you will need some forge (or suchlike) adjustable rear arms to give you camber adjust)
Then - Supercharge or turbo!! Have driven an S/C 4mo and was well impressed with the power hike. [
]Check these vids for what the turbo can do:[
][][]http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/vw_a4_24v_vr6_turbo_stage_2.html
Quote: posted by ukdub on 28/03/2005 13:14:39
what about the neuspeed ones from awesome are they any good?
Probably very good but they are at least twice the price if not 3 times the price for something that does the same job, I know some people here have got brand new r32 front and rear arb's from the dealer for as little as ?130 whereas the neuspeed ones are ?????
what about the neuspeed ones from awesome are they any good?
Probably very good but they are at least twice the price if not 3 times the price for something that does the same job, I know some people here have got brand new r32 front and rear arb's from the dealer for as little as ?130 whereas the neuspeed ones are ?????
Quote: posted by andymac on 28/03/2005 13:20:36
Quote: posted by ukdub on 28/03/2005 13:14:39
what about the neuspeed ones from awesome are they any good?
Probably very good but they are at least twice the price if not 3 times the price for something that does the same job, I know some people here have got brand new r32 front and rear arb's from the dealer for as little as ?130 whereas the neuspeed ones are ?????
ditto 100%... just not worth it... add to the r32 ARB's, the S3 lower, and possibly upper OEM strut braces, and you have a winner, for VERY little money (Lower brace is about ?12-?13 all in!!! [:O]) []
Quote: posted by ukdub on 28/03/2005 13:14:39
what about the neuspeed ones from awesome are they any good?
Probably very good but they are at least twice the price if not 3 times the price for something that does the same job, I know some people here have got brand new r32 front and rear arb's from the dealer for as little as ?130 whereas the neuspeed ones are ?????
ditto 100%... just not worth it... add to the r32 ARB's, the S3 lower, and possibly upper OEM strut braces, and you have a winner, for VERY little money (Lower brace is about ?12-?13 all in!!! [:O]) [
]Hope you dont mind me jumping in on this thread.
Me and my mate are going to fit some FK coil overs to his 4 Motion today which he scored of eBay ?150 [].
Any way how important is the camber for the reliability of the 4x4. I used to own a Cav Turbo and the camber used to kill the transfer box in no time lol.
cheers for any help.
Me and my mate are going to fit some FK coil overs to his 4 Motion today which he scored of eBay ?150 [
].Any way how important is the camber for the reliability of the 4x4. I used to own a Cav Turbo and the camber used to kill the transfer box in no time lol.
cheers for any help.
Quote: posted by Neilc on 16/04/2005 08:52:02
Hope you dont mind me jumping in on this thread.
Me and my mate are going to fit some FK coil overs to his 4 Motion today which he scored of eBay ?150 [].
Any way how important is the camber for the reliability of the 4x4. I used to own a Cav Turbo and the camber used to kill the transfer box in no time lol.
cheers for any help.
In reference to the camber issue, it IS as you probably know rectifiable. There are both adjustable arms, and camber adjustment bolts available. Ive not hear of it causing any issues with any of the 4wd mkvis anyway (Some of the sport TT's which use the same setup with a 20mm drop had this camber problem, which Audi eventually rectified with shorter lower arms, but there is plenty floating about that havnt been sorted.)
As said no issues with arb's on 4mo/r32 etc
Hope you dont mind me jumping in on this thread.
Me and my mate are going to fit some FK coil overs to his 4 Motion today which he scored of eBay ?150 [
].Any way how important is the camber for the reliability of the 4x4. I used to own a Cav Turbo and the camber used to kill the transfer box in no time lol.
cheers for any help.
In reference to the camber issue, it IS as you probably know rectifiable. There are both adjustable arms, and camber adjustment bolts available. Ive not hear of it causing any issues with any of the 4wd mkvis anyway (Some of the sport TT's which use the same setup with a 20mm drop had this camber problem, which Audi eventually rectified with shorter lower arms, but there is plenty floating about that havnt been sorted.)
As said no issues with arb's on 4mo/r32 etc
Quote: posted by danw19 on 16/04/2005 22:33:48
I wish i had a v6 4motion!!
First and foremost, I would get santa monica alloys if you havent got them already cos they are sooo cool and dont affect ride/handling/performance adversely as they are only 17's.
18's dont either bud. Standard on the r32, and gti anniversary.[]
I wish i had a v6 4motion!!
First and foremost, I would get santa monica alloys if you havent got them already cos they are sooo cool and dont affect ride/handling/performance adversely as they are only 17's.
18's dont either bud. Standard on the r32, and gti anniversary.[
]Got the coil overs on yesterday and it was very easy, no problems at all.
Although he made me wind it up a bit as there was only just over an 1" of bumper clearance at the front but it looks so much better, made think about a 4 motion later on my self.
The back is set to maximum drop but the front has still got 40mm of thread left. Either end of the sill there is still a 20mm difference so the car is still balanced quite well.
Even though the rear is at maximum drop the coil adjuster must be at least 15mm thick itself, goes well low when you dont use them lol
Although he made me wind it up a bit as there was only just over an 1" of bumper clearance at the front but it looks so much better, made think about a 4 motion later on my self.
The back is set to maximum drop but the front has still got 40mm of thread left. Either end of the sill there is still a 20mm difference so the car is still balanced quite well.
Even though the rear is at maximum drop the coil adjuster must be at least 15mm thick itself, goes well low when you dont use them lol
Quote: posted by Neilc on 17/04/2005 10:12:12
Got the coil overs on yesterday and it was very easy, no problems at all.
Although he made me wind it up a bit as there was only just over an 1" of bumper clearance at the front but it looks so much better, made think about a 4 motion later on my self.
The back is set to maximum drop but the front has still got 40mm of thread left. Either end of the sill there is still a 20mm difference so the car is still balanced quite well.
Even though the rear is at maximum drop the coil adjuster must be at least 15mm thick itself, goes well low when you dont use them lol
I know thats what I have on mine!!( no adjusters)[] Dont worry about windin it up!! only have an inch of sump/bumper clearancemyself too!! the good thing is the Mk4 lifts real qick at the front, when going over bumps etc.
Got the coil overs on yesterday and it was very easy, no problems at all.
Although he made me wind it up a bit as there was only just over an 1" of bumper clearance at the front but it looks so much better, made think about a 4 motion later on my self.
The back is set to maximum drop but the front has still got 40mm of thread left. Either end of the sill there is still a 20mm difference so the car is still balanced quite well.
Even though the rear is at maximum drop the coil adjuster must be at least 15mm thick itself, goes well low when you dont use them lol
I know thats what I have on mine!!( no adjusters)[
] Dont worry about windin it up!! only have an inch of sump/bumper clearancemyself too!! the good thing is the Mk4 lifts real qick at the front, when going over bumps etc.Quote: posted by Neilc on 17/04/2005 16:44:08
I tried to tell him it would be alright but him and his missis were moaning lol.
I would have wound it down another 10+mm at least []
LOL - with me runnin the 225/35/18 rubber its scary low, and i'd say as far as the actal design of the coilovers is concerned there is probably another 15-20mm. my car would be near as dammit scraping the floor!! LOL
I tried to tell him it would be alright but him and his missis were moaning lol.
I would have wound it down another 10+mm at least [
]LOL - with me runnin the 225/35/18 rubber its scary low, and i'd say as far as the actal design of the coilovers is concerned there is probably another 15-20mm. my car would be near as dammit scraping the floor!! LOL
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