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Surprise surprise, the new Bond was announced as Daniel Craig. Whats your view? They have to prove me wrong but I think they are kinda going in the same direction as Dalton by trying to make Bond more gritty and tough. It didnt quite work with Dalton and I'm not sure if it will with Craig. Can't quite see him being very charming which is something Brosnan/Moore/Connery had, in different ways. Like I said, I reserve judgement until I see the film! Hope they are looking for extras again. [:)]
 

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I'm a Bond fan, pre-modern era of Brosnan and all of them being the same film pretty much, just confirms that the Bond's should have been left alone years ago.

Nothing against the guy at all, but Bond films are just a joke nowadays.

The early ones were real, weren't they?[:p]

One of the main changes is society and it's PC views now. Whereas Connery would and Moore (sometimes) would smack the woman around for example and have plenty of non-pc inuendos. (not a wifebeater, just using it as an example!, well, don't have a prob as long as my shirts are ironed - joke)
 

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He was good in Layer Cake. I can see it working ok.
Seen Layer Cake myself and yes he was very good in that, but not quite shouting Bond to me yet. I probably eat my words when I see him in Casino Royale though!

I think they are wanting to return to a more hard-biting Bond, though Im not sure whether it will be unPC or not but I hope its more fun. By the time Die Another Day came out, Brosnan was just sleepwalking his role as Bond and frankly he looked bored. As its Casion Royale, it's supposed to be Bond when he was younger, ala the prequel film they keep on pushing these days to reinvigorate a franchise (Batman, the forthcoming Superman, to a extent Star Wars). Oh and I really hope the bad guy this time can be someone that isn't british or european as in 3 of the last 4 Bond films (Sean Bean, Jonathan Pryce, Tpby Stephens). Make them anything but a token British bad guy!
 

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IMO...

-- Piece Brosnan was excellent in Goldeneye, then it got silly with Tomorow Never Dies. Die Another Day was very weak

-- Timothy Dalton was much better than everyone says he was and underated; Living Daylights is my personal favourite Bond film

-- Sean Connery was good, but those films are 40 years old now and
people need to get over it- hes the original but time moves on

-- Roger Moore was absolute trash

I think Craig is a great actor but a bit rough for Bond - he looks like
hes been hit in the side of the face, very hard, many times. But
looking forward to seeing it anyway to see what they do with it...its a
remake of Casino Royale isn't it?
 

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I think Craig is a great actor but a bit rough for Bond - he looks like hes been hit in the side of the face, very hard, many times.
hahaha my thoughts exactly (didn't know how to put it before), hes a bit rough around the ages but I guess thats why they chose him as he's 'gritty'.

Pierce was good in Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough. Tomorrow Never Dies was like his turn as Moore with cheesy everything. And yes Die Another Day was just drab drab drab. But come on Mike, Moore was good in a very bad 70's/80's cheesey kinda way! [:p]
 

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I will also reserve judgement. I actually really like Brosnan as Bond,
he was much more like Connery in some respects. I still enjoy the Bond
franchise but it is perhaps getting a bit long in the tooth.
 

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But come on Mike, Moore was good in a very bad 70's/80's cheesey kinda way! [:p]
Hmm, I suppose you are right. But dressing up as a clown and silly
sound effects when jumping chasms weren't my idea of Bond! It was all a bit camp. That
being said, I'd still watch it on a bank holiday afternoon.

[:)]

You were in Die Another Day weren't you mate? You should post the
photo! I really liked the 'Bond Gets Caught' idea and the first forty
minutes were genuinely brilliant - doing something different! But it
just got ridiculous - ice palaces, diamonds in the face and surfing
through icebergs...honestly.
 

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Hmm, I suppose you are right. But dressing up as a clown and silly sound effects when jumping chasms weren't my idea of Bond! It was all a bit camp. That being said, I'd still watch it on a bank holiday afternoon.

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You were in Die Another Day weren't you mate? You should post the photo! I really liked the 'Bond Gets Caught' idea and the first forty minutes were genuinely brilliant - doing something different! But it just got ridiculous - ice palaces, diamonds in the face and surfing through icebergs...honestly.
....and silly invisible cars or whatever the hell it was. Was only 1/2 paying attention in the cinema for that one tbh. (Can't even remember which on it was now!)

I thought Moore was OK, v. camp, but some good scripts and locations. Did get a bit crap with Octopussy (silliest Bond ever!) and View to a Kill though. (Bond as a pensioner)

Suppose it's not that I disliked Brosnan, just feel his films were all the same and relying on gadgets all o the time?
 

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You were in Die Another Day weren't you mate? You should post the
photo! I really liked the 'Bond Gets Caught' idea and the first forty
minutes were genuinely brilliant - doing something different! But it
just got ridiculous - ice palaces, diamonds in the face and surfing
through icebergs...honestly.
Hahaha I lost the screen capture ages ago mate and tbh most people just
laugh nowadays when I say I was in the in background of the hotel
scene. In the cinema I could see a big blur of a fat guy, but on DVD Im
hardly noticable!

The dialog in DAD was abysmal! I mean did they get the same guy from
the the Star Wars prequel to do it? I think Brosnan couldn't believe he
had to read those lines. Didn't really like the director either and he
wasn't that nice on set. Lee Tamhori I think his name is. Good pay
though, ?200 for doing a day's standing about.

Worst bit in Die Another Day though, without a single doubt has to be
the pre-Gerry Anderson special effects when the land car went over the
cliff. Thunderbirds effect was better than that cack bit of CGI.

You can tell I'm a film geek, can't you [:p]
 

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I am a massive bond fan and am interested to see how he'll do, but alas I'm not holding my breath.

Connery - God

Moore - not good

Lazenby - well, since he never even features in these conversations speaks volumes.

Dalton - square peg, round hole.

Brosnan - I really liked him. He brought class/humour back to the role. He also proved his 00'ness (thats not even a word [8)] ) when he shot Elektra King in the face - goo on my son!

Craig - He's a good actor (loved Layer Cake) but Dalton syndrome methinx. He'll have to pull on out of the bag this time.
 

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Worst bit in Die Another Day though, without a single doubt has to be
the pre-Gerry Anderson special effects when the land car went over the
cliff. Thunderbirds effect was better than that cack bit of CGI.
That was probably the single worst special effect in modern cinema history.
 

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I personally thought that Clive Owen would have been suited to the Bond role.

I have no problem with Daniel Craig being given the role, only time will tell whether it is a good choice. I thought he was good in 'Our Friends in the North', but to me on looks alone, he would be better suited as a bad guy in a Bond film.
 

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I though Daniel Craig would definately be upto the job after Layer Cake, and the next one should easily be better than the last one - and lets face it, that won't be hard

I agree with Flex on most of his points:

Connery - The definative Bond

Moore - Not to keen on him trys to be suave but comes across slimey. Made worse in my mind by the scriptwriters attempts to get as many supposedly witty retorts in as they could possibly manage - but most where just cringe worthy, and definately not cool.

Brosnan - Liked the first one but then they fell into the Moore trap by putting in to many bad one-liners in. Then rather than the gadgets being a tool to get the job done it seemed to just be all about the gadgets like they where the star.

Dalton - tried well but never seemed to fit the roll

Lazenbee - enough said
 

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Maybe I live in a cave, but I have never heard of that lad.....
Daniel Craig - hes one of those guys you've seen but don't know the
name of. Hes also poking Jude Laws misses despite Jude being a mate of
his.

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I personally thought that Clive Owen would have been suited to the Bond role.

I have no problem with Daniel Craig being given the role, only time
will tell whether it is a good choice. I thought he was good in 'Our
Friends in the North', but to me on looks alone, he would be better
suited as a bad guy in a Bond film.
Bang on Marc, Clive Owen would have been perfect.
Have
you seen the BMW Films?


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