[turbo tyke]

Just reading the latest golf magazine and yet again the press are slaging the mk4 of why is this i think its a great car what do you guys think have you noticed the same.

 

[ianhg]

i have always noticed this, its the same with the Audi, they are slating the old A3 and loving the new one, excuse me not all of the old A3s were crap,

i find the the motoring section of the telegraph slates off a VAG car each week!

 

[turbo tyke]

Don't got me wrong i know the mk4 has got bigger but it dose'nt deserve the bad press it gets.

 

[gfunk]

fraid to say that this is a common approach from most of the media. most people here love the mk4. personally think its one of the nicest golfs but when considering performance it doesnt really match up to mk1 gti and now mk5 gti

 

[Chris]

If they had of got the supension sorted then it wouldn't have been an issue how heavy the cars were, but they were shockingly under-damped.

 

[turbo tyke]

It has the same suspension as what the mk3 had,can't understand why v.w did'nt change it.

 

[Mart4875]

It seems that a lot of mags I've read have slated the Mk4 saying it's slow. Ok the 1.8t might not win any awards for being quick but I think it can holds it's own against similiar powered cars.

 

[turbo tyke]

The only mag ive read that has praised the mk4 is p.v.w which i was surprised with.

 

[sgt.banjo]

I think the MKIV golf really sparked the TDI revolution and should be thanked for it.

Sarge

 

[andymac]

Quote: posted by sgt.banjo on 05/03/2005 21:51:30

I think the MKIV golf really sparked the TDI revolution and should be thanked for it.

Sarge

Sorry mate Peugeot actually sparked the TDI revelution several years earlier with the 306 HDIh

 

[flyfs6]

Some praise it and some don't.

Its one of those things...to be honest reason why it gets slated is that VW could have made it a better drivers car.

 

[Y0Gi]

One vital ingriedient that VW forgot.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................REVO

 

[beerboy]

One of the reasons is that it's so well made and refined that the only area left to criticise is the performance and handling. So this is what they concentrate on, unlike with some competitors cars that may handle or perform better, but are actually poo.

 

[Chris]

Well yeah, but i would have happily opted for slightly cheaper plastics etc for a car that actually could go round corners. VW got the balance of what to do best on the MKIV entirely wrong - most of the stock cars looked entirely bland without any model differentation, and the bulk of the engines were either poor or underpowered, combine that with wooly steering and underdamped suspension and its not a very good combo! That's where i think SEAT kinda got it right, they have the more powerful tunes of engines, yet rejig the suspension to how they want, and add a standard fit bodykit... works well for me!

 

[sgt.banjo]

Andymac - The 306 may well have been one of the first readily available

and desireable TDI's but I'd hardly call it a revolution. You just have to stand by any major

road now and you'll see hundreds of TDI powered reps, school runs, cardiganned (is that a word?)

dads and boy racers too. I think it took the classlessness of a car like the golf to really

make it happen.

Sarge

 

[Mart4875]

Quote: posted by Chris on 06/03/2005 00:48:30

Well yeah, but i would have happily opted for slightly cheaper plastics etc for a car that actually could go round corners. VW got the balance of what to do best on the MKIV entirely wrong - most of the stock cars looked entirely bland without any model differentation, and the bulk of the engines were either poor or underpowered, combine that with wooly steering and underdamped suspension and its not a very good combo! That's where i think SEAT kinda got it right, they have the more powerful tunes of engines, yet rejig the suspension to how they want, and add a standard fit bodykit... works well for me!

Chris I agree with you there. Before I bought the Golf I was looking at a late Leon Cupra and the whole package was better ie handling performance and bodykit but it was out of my price range at the time.

VW should have put the 180bhp engine far before they did. Bearing in mind the Leon had it as early as 2000.

 

[turbo tyke]

So do you guys think its a proper gti or more of a luxuary car or both?

 

[sutherlandm]

The R32 IS lardy but we all still love it!!

 

[turbo tyke]

Dont forget the 1.8T,the most popular car on the forum []

 

[binlinerVR6]

It's not really the mk4 that gets slated but rather the GTI version... the mk3 is the same both lovely cars but the power to weight ratio and handling is not what you'd expect from a GTI.