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David Beckham's England career appears to be at an end after new manager Steve McClaren left him out of his squad.

Beckham's name was absent as McClaren unveiled his first squad - for the friendly against Greece on 16 August.

"I told David I was looking to change things, looking to go in a different direction, and he wasn't included within that," explained McClaren.

The new England boss would not rule out recalling Beckham but the 31-year-old seems unlikely to add to his 94 caps.

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Beckham shouldnt have been dropped. OK, he's had a slump in form, but he's still a great player and mentor for the younger players. I would have liked to have seen each half shared between him and Lennon personally.
 

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Right to drop him, based on recent form, absolutely, having said that though, how many players had a good World Cup?

Beckham is a great player and dropping him will see him bust his (golden) balls to get back in the squad. He still plays (and consistently in the first 11) for one of the biggest teams in the world and hopefully he's gets to add to his caps by being picked on form.
 

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i agree players lose the love of the game, it needs something like this to relise they are not untouchable. look at duff going to newcastle this season over tottenham and liverpool if he loved the game over money he would of gone to spurs or liverpool.
 

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Ithink it is a great move to drop Beckham , All of the england matches that he has played in recently have been rarther boring with him knocking long balls through to the strikers and losing the ball, Hopefully with him missing there will be more ball's played through and the England will become more interesting and less predictable.

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Ithink it is a great move to drop Beckham , All of the england matches that he has played in recently have been rarther boring with him knocking long balls through to the strikers and losing the ball, Hopefully with him missing there will be more ball's played through and the England will become more interesting and less predictable.

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totally agree, get lennon out on the wing and let him run at them[:D]
 

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I think its the bad decision. He is a great player and imo was one of the better performers of the world cup, along with hargreaves. I think the system is to blame as i don't think you can play Lampard (who should be dropped) and Gerrard in the same team. If he dropped Lampard he could play beckham in the middle which would free up the right for Lennon and give Gerrard the freedom his game thrives on.

And about Duff joining Newcastle. I don't think its just for the money tbh. Liverpool would have paid good wages. I think its more about regular football and he will get that at the Toon and good money and maybe some silverware[:|]
 

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Beckham had a good world cup???? where you watching this years world cup or highlights off 2002?[:D]

As for Duff, silverware at Newcastle dont make me laugh - liverpool and spurs were not willing to match his wages. out of the three he should of gone to liverpool he would of played regually and had champions league football
 

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note the [:|]. i'm not saying he had a good world cup as only hargreaves did but he was one of the better ones. Better than Lampard. so if its based on recent performances should he not drop him?
 

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Lampard had a lot more chances then Beckham, its not just this world cup that Beckham has played bad. Not that you couldnt guess but im not a big fan of Beckham never have been. what makes me laugh is that he scores an odd freekick here and there eg greece game and everyone thinks his god. in that greece game how many freekicks did he miss before he scored that one in the 90 min? Beckham was only good for freekicks and that was it. its like just having someone on the pitch because they have a long throw into the box.
 

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I watch a lot of spanish football, mainly barcelona and real madrid as thats what sky shows most. Beckham is so much more than just a freekick specialist. His work rate is second to none for both club and country. He wont take players on like the likes of Lennon but you can't compare the delivery of the ball into the box between Lennon and Beckham. Isn't crossing the ball into the box the main purpose of a right or left sided midfielder?

Look at the goals that England recently scored where did most of them come from? A David Beckham freekick.

Also Lampard had enough chances to be the top scorer in the world cup but how many did he score? not one. Is that what you want from an attacking midfielder? I doubt if Beckham was playing in the middle he would get in as good positions as Lampard, but, it would give more freedom to Gerrard who would get in those postions. I know who i would rather it be, getting all the chances. Gerrard.
 

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lennon gets right into the box so all you need is someone to tap it in, with beckham you have to have someone tall in the box and with crouch being the only one (who cant header to save his life) it doesnt work.

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"Also Lampard had enough chances to be the top scorer in the world cup but how many did he score? not one. Is that what you want from an attacking midfielder? I doubt if Beckham was playing in the middle he would get in as good positions as Lampard, but, it would give more freedom to Gerrard who would get in those postions. I know who i would rather it be, getting all the chances. Gerrard."

beckham cant tackle and has no pace so he would be crap in a holding role. lampard and gerrard have worked fine together before this world cup and are both better players then beckham. theres not room for all 3 of them though and with gerrard having a good long pass and shot and lampard one of the best attacking midfielders...beckham is no longer required.
 

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I agree that Lennon is a good player, great at getting past players and into the box and thats why i think Lampard should be the one to go. If he played with Cole, Gerrard, Beckham, Hargreaves and Lennon in the middle it would provide a better unit. Gerrard and Lampard are too similar to have in the same side imo, not to mention the fact that Lampard is rubbish.

Can I ask who you support?
 

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tottenham are you a united fan?

Cole, Gerrard, Beckham, Hargreaves and Lennon in the middle - are you saying play all 5 and lennon in the middle???[:^)]
 

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Newcastle fan yeah. I'm not the biggest fan of 4-5-1 but as we are missing a centre forward of world class quality i feel its the only option. Giving Gerrard, who can win games on his own, more freedom to go forward supporting the striker.
 

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if i was going to be brave it would have to be 3-5-2 - rooney and owen/defoe/bent up front. i would never put lennon in the middle his not strong enough he has to be on the wing.
 

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i would have Cole one the left, gerrard and Beckham in the middle, Hargreaves as the holding man and Lennon on the Right. Rooney up front. Not the biggest fan of owen and by the time he gets fit Becks will probably be retired
 

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i would have Cole one the left, gerrard and Beckham in the middle, Hargreaves as the holding man and Lennon on the Right. Rooney up front. Not the biggest fan of owen and by the time he gets fit Becks will probably be retired
i agree with lennon right, cole right and gerrard in the middle if beckham has to play it needs to be on the wing. if he was in the middle you wouldnt want him in the team after that. im not a big fan of hargreaves for a holding role i would have carrick instead. i dont think you can afford to leave lampard out either.

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i would have Cole one the left, gerrard and Beckham in the middle, Hargreaves as the holding man and Lennon on the Right. Rooney up front. Not the biggest fan of owen and by the time he gets fit Becks will probably be retired
i agree with lennon right, cole right and gerrard in the middle if beckham has to play it needs to be on the wing. if he was in the middle you wouldnt want him in the team after that. im not a big fan of hargreaves for a holding role i would have carrick instead. i dont think you can afford to leave lampard out either.

robinson

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da-cortez , you are spot on with your choice,which (seeing as you support thfc) is quiet suprising [:p]
 

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i would have Cole one the left, gerrard and Beckham in the middle, Hargreaves as the holding man and Lennon on the Right. Rooney up front. Not the biggest fan of owen and by the time he gets fit Becks will probably be retired
i agree with lennon right, cole right and gerrard in the middle if beckham has to play it needs to be on the wing. if he was in the middle you wouldnt want him in the team after that. im not a big fan of hargreaves for a holding role i would have carrick instead. i dont think you can afford to leave lampard out either.

robinson

neville rio terry a cole

lennon carrick lampard j cole

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rooney
da-cortez , you are spot on with your choice,which (seeing as you support thfc) is quiet suprising [:p]
LMAO [:D]
 
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