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I've had a letter from VW saying my car requires a cam belt. When I called the garage up and pushed for an answer they said that VW has suffered some cam belt failures and as a result the due mileage has been halved to 40,000 with the addition of 'or 4 years'. I recall reading something in VW driver letter page saying something similar.

Anyone else get this?? I'm annoyed because a cam belt every 4 years or 40K is just rubbish!! I know that the injectors are run off the cam belt and as a result this means a lot more stress but this isn't what I expect from VW.

So for running costs the typical Golf TDi driver has cooling fans every 30K and cam belt every 40K, who thought that buying VW was a smart move [8o|]
 

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ive not had a letter but have just had the cambelt done due to it coming upto 4yrs old and it was in for a full service aswell, shame it only done 17k
 

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I'm wound up about the fact that due to a design 'feature' (or whatever spin VW choose to put on it) any savings I might make by owning a TDi are totally wiped out by this cam belt change and sodden cooling fans.

I'm lucky I know a very good private VW specialist. I'm going to call VW tomorrow and find out if it was a faulty batch of belts or if the new belt has been modified and the interval is back up to 80,000.

I know two people who own Honda's. One owns a Civic Type R and all he has gone wrong is the alarm. The other person has a S2000, thrashes it all the time - all thats gone wrong is the air bag module - and that car is older than my car with about 80,000 miles on the clock.

What's my point? Owning a VW with these 'common' faults is getting embaressing.

Anyone want to buy a cherished VW TDi 150??
 

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What cars does this affect? Anyway i was lucky enough to check the condition of my timing belt, it had done little under 40k over 1 and a half years, and it was  full of cracks and looked mega old. I changed it no questions asked. The belts are tensioned very tight, it cost quite alot too, even though i saved on labour as i did it myself.
 

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If this is a design fault then surely vw should be paying for some of the costs involved. seems ridiculous that vw can just change their minds about the service intervals because of failures of cambelts. why no product recall?
 

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You're exactly right.

Even if they simply looked at it from a expenditure point of view, surely a recall on a dodgy batch or any other preventative method would be cheaper than them paying the 40% good will gesture when everyone's car siezes up!
 

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Guys I have some more info.

I remember reading about cam belts in VW driver mag... done some digging around through my collection of mags. Issue Jan 06 pg 52 has a letter on TDI cam belts.

Its too long to write the whole lot but the upshot is this:

Upto model year 2001 AJM engined required cam belt (+ idler) change of 40K
After 2001 cam belt (+ idler) at 60,000 miles are recomended

All AJM engine codes upto and including AJM185670 - cam belt due at 40K
From AJM185671 mod to belt enabled 60,000 K between changes

The difference in the belt was the shape of the teeth - older style belt had squarer teeth, newer style are more rounded. Only later belt is available for purchase now, which will fit on older or newer engines.

Tensioner roller is different on early and late engines:

045 109 243B - engines up to AJM185670
045 109 243C - engines from AJM185671

This does need to be varified that VW have not revised this since it was put in the mag.
 

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Hmmm, All PDs generally share the same belt but if yours is ARL it would be 2001 onwards so why does yours need a 40k change?
 

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Hmmm, All PDs generally share the same belt but if yours is ARL it would be 2001 onwards so why does yours need a 40k change?
Yeah - good point I would have thought mine is a 'late' engine my services book does say ARL but nothing like AJM.... like in my post.

So - is this newer style belt not able to handle 60K they thought it would, is that the probem and now they recommend 40K???
 

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it might be worth ringing up VW Customer Service 0800 711 811, to confirm if your belt change is at 40k or 60k

mine is a late AJM engine, bought the cam belt kit from the dealers. The kit is same one used on the 130 bhp pd engine. My dealer suggested I should change the cam belt at 40k not 60k to be on the safe side

I'll be getting the cam belt changed at the end of the month. I will let you all know what the condition of the old belt is in
 

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My cam belt was changed at 20k due to some twonk causing a massive oil leak. It's not due to be changed 'till 80k, but I inspected it and looks like it'll need done long before then.
 

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Sk4tec, Sorry to hijack your thread mate, but which VW specialist do you use? I have been trying find a good one somewhere around Reading for a while. Could you Pm me their details?
 

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I've called a two garages and both of them contradict the first guy I
spoke to who said its 40,000 miles or 4 years - this does not apply to
my car (muppet!).

The cambelt schedule for my car is 60,000
miles and always has been. 6-7 months ago VW added the additional
condition of 60,000 miles or 4 years. So my car is due for its age and
not its mileage.
 

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Could try Maybank on Cradock Road. They're only willing to use parts they supply though, which is why I recently used AVIT in Slough.
 

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I use Mill Road Garage in Caversham (0118 946 1674).

I received two letters from two VW dealerships telling me to change the cam-belt. Thing is, I've got a V5 which I thought had a chain!
 

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Not being funny but regardless of what Manufacturers state, there is NO
WAY on earth I would trust a piece of re-enforced rubber anything over
40k anyway, when I was an MVT we regularly saw OEM belts fail around
15k.

I'm starting to get twitchy about mine having done 20k!
 

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Not being funny but regardless of what Manufacturers state, there is NO
WAY on earth I would trust a piece of re-enforced rubber anything over
40k anyway, when I was an MVT we regularly saw OEM belts fail around
15k.

I'm starting to get twitchy about mine having done 20k!
Sorry to aska silly question but whats an 'MVT'? Hve u got the inside info on VW?
 

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MVT = Motor Vehicle Technician.

It's been 10 years since I last turned a spanner professionally but
technology hasn't moved on that much, re-enforced rubber is still
rubber and prone to the same wear and tear, temperatures and
environments.

Fair enough if your car is under warranty but even so, I could do
without the hassle of an engine rebuild after a belt failure...

No, its not inside info, just experience (and that of my ex-colleagues who are still in the industry).
 
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