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I hope someone can help me out on this one. I ordered a Neuspeed short shift from Awesome GTI 'B' in the picture below is the Neuspeed one and 'A' is my original one.

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I dont know if you can notice the difference between the two but the distance between the hole and the pin is different on both short shifts, is that normal? here's another picture:

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I still tried to fit the Neuspeed shortshift but straight away i could feel something was wrong. Basically my question would be, does this look like the wrong short shift or am i not installing it correctly?
 

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Hi

yes thats the right one, the distance thing is how the quickshift basically shortens the throw...

"I still tried to fit the Neuspeed shortshift but straight away i could feel something was wrong"

How do you mean?
 

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Well in general all the gear changes felt anything but smooth, the car wouldn't shift into reverse and the bit that fits onto the peg was toutching another part of the car when i shift into second (i think it was). Also i got two warning signals on my dash.. i used VAG COM to clear them and i can't remember what they were. Any idea what i'm doing wrong?

When fitting a short shift, is it normally just a direct replacement?
 

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sounds like you have caught the adjustment on gear s election cables (did you remove these and catch the springy part)?... ! that will cause the smoothness and shifting problems!

Warning signals - cant see why you are getting those!
 

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If you removed the cables have you done the set-up procedure.

It involves locking the gear lever and the shift mechanism.
 

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These are the only parts that i took off in order to replace the short shift. Would this mean that I have caught the adjustment on the gear s election cables?

" If you removed the cables have you done the set-up procedure.

It involves locking the gear lever and the shift mechanism."​

All i did was take out the old short shift and replace it with the Neuspeed one. I did not follow any procedure, do you have any idea where I can get more info on that?
 

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Yes, would echo the dieselgeek setup is brilliant.

I used an allen key instead of a bent nail (you'll know when you read it) to re-align my gear shift - it was very notchy and difficult to get 2nd. The whole thing was returned to 'new' smooth and easy to change, so I didn't bother with a quick shift....
 

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Thanx for the dieselgeek site, I've just finished reading the sections I'll need and I hope i'll get some time today to have another go at installing the short shift. I didn't follow any of the alignment procedure when I initially tried to install the short shift but at the same time I managed not to damage anything (thank god!) I was very sceptical of everything I touched so I ended up not fiddling with much...[;)]

I'll let you guys know what happens... hope this works
 

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I just fit the short shift and after doing the alignment procedure (which is on this page: http://www.dieselgeek.com/Ultrasixinstall.htm) I am able to shift and lock into all gears including reverse. The shift is a lot smoother and feels like I was hoping it would, perfect [:D].

This weekend I think I'll align it again one more time because I seem to have left 5th and 6th a little far to the right... but no biggi, wont be hard to fix now. One thing Im not happy about, why didn't Neuspeed even hint at needing to do some kind of alignment on their instruction paper???

Thanx guys.

p.s. Now I know why i got the engine warning lights when I tried to install the short shift the first time round. It was because I had another simultaneous problem occur (what are the chances).. but I've fixed both problems since.. if anyone's interested, here's a link to the other problem I had faced: http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=48569
 

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Quote: posted by awesomeade on 17/01/2005 13:44:23

glad its sorted, sorry haven't replied been away on business

That's cool. By the way, i LOVE this short shift.... it's amazing all the advantages so far have been:

1) Of course gear throw has been reduced

2) Downshifting style had to change since the car now goes into gear at a higher than usual rpm. i.e. I have to blip the throttle with less pressure than before.

3) Since i've got aftermarket exhaust, being able to change into gear faster means that the exhaust note is held rather than dropping and then (depending on speed) rising up again.

4) There's a driving style but i can't remember what it's called, it's basically when you go up the gears but without letting go of the gas. Well, when i do this now with the short shift, the whole thing works like a dream. Engine screaming, foot on the gas, gear slammed into place and what you feel then is the great part... nearly no engine throw whatsoever (and i dont have aftermarket engine mounts on). It basically feels like the car is accelerating even while i'm changing gear. I think the reason for this is the car will go into gear and engage before the engine has had a chance to throw back and so it feels like it's just going forwards... i love it.
 

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not that easy seemingly.......

is it a case of buying one and swapping?

or would you recommend getting a garage to fit it?

also, what part are you replacing when you do this, so i can look it up in the haynes manual!
 

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"not that easy seemingly......." - pends how technical you are - it just appears Mokeylock

caught the adjusting screws while fitting it...

yes simple direct replacement with the Neuspeed one... i think its called the gear s election lever...
 

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Quote: posted by Essex Escy on 08/02/2005 12:46:48

not that easy seemingly.......

is it a case of buying one and swapping?

or would you recommend getting a garage to fit it?

also, what part are you replacing when you do this, so i can look it up in the haynes manual!

It was very simple, Neuspeed just didn't supply any info on the adjustment procedure and so I didn't do it the first time which was the reason they short shift wasn't doing what it was meant to do. Once I followed the adjustment procedure, everything was straight forward and no problems till now.

I would recommend you fit it yourself just for the experience, but if you still aren't sure then get a garage that knows about VWs to do it, just make sure he knows all about adjusting after fitting.
 

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Quote: posted by awesomeade on 08/02/2005 13:49:29

You shouldnt have to adjust them as far as i'm told, leave them at original settings...

Really? Mine would just not go into gear (especially reverse) until I did the adjustment. I actually thought I got sent the wrong shortshift at first.
 

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Yep - just unclip those springy things - remove the gear s election lever - fit the quickshift - clip back in the springy things.... If you catch the springy things while doing this then that will mean you have to re-adjust the gears...

(technical description above lol - springy bits)
 
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