[Tabs]

For the last few weeks my passenger side window has been acting very strange when raising the glass. It will get about three quarters of the way up and it will start to strain and almost stop. You can hear the motor struggling to raise the glass....

This morning it got a bit worse, I was closing the window it got three quarters of the way up as usual but the glass stopped moving completely and I had to shove the glass up with my hand to get it all the way up [:O]

Is this a sign of the dreaded regulator issue and if so what do I need to fix it?

TIA

 

[turbo_gti]

Sounds like it matey.....[] Mine did exactly the same, struggled up three quaters of the way then BANG! window dropped into the door. The "fixing" kit you can buy from the Stealers, think has the metal clips inside to replace the crap plastic ones. I think they are a pain in the rear to fit though.

I got mine done at a local garage cost me £75 all up.

 

[Tabs]

Bugger, thought it might be the dreaded window reg. problem - is the install hard, whats involved, is it just taking the interior panel off to access the parts?

Ohh, and how much is the fixing kit?

 

[turbo_gti]

Not sure on the price of the fixing kit but im sure there was a thread not so long back with the part number and a sort of how I think.

Not to sure of the fitment, just know it took the garage who done mine about 45 min to an hour all in all for one window.

Sorry I cant be of any more help tabs, im a lazy sod and just got the garage to do mine.

[B)]

 

[Tabs]

Ok cheers mate I'll do a search.

 

[Hammertime]

Check this post:-

http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17512&SearchTerms=,Regulator

 

[Tabs]

Cheers, looks like a reg. fixing kit for me then!

Is there a P/N for the metal three door kit?

 

[1.8T]

Bob (and indeed any VW dealer) should have them in stock now Mark. Bob supplied me with the 5 door version for £27 but for some strange reason the 3 door version is around £7 i think.

Quite easy to fit but allow your self an hour or so as there is a fair bit of taking thing apart before you get to the regulator. The only tricky bit is getting the final cable in the metal clips as it's under quite a lot of tension.

I took the door lock out when doing mine but I now know you don't have to do this - just knock out the plastic rivet and leav it all in place. This will make the job much easier.

P.S. I wouldn't go using the window untill you get it fixed. The reason it isn't winding up is that one of the clips will be broken transferring all the weight to the other clip which will now be putting all the pressure on one side of the glass forcing the window to tip in the runners. If you carry on using it it will break the other clip and your window will be in the bottom of the door !!

 

[Tabs]

Thanks for that Mark. So let me get this right, do I have to remove the door card to gain access to the clips?

I've removed the drivers side before when fitting Foxy's LED mod so IIRC it's not that bad (and I did it in the dark!)

Oh, and dont worry, I aint using that window until it's sorted!

 

[1.8T]

Yes you have to remove the door card, then the metal carrier under it. The wiper motor and the regulator are mounted to this. One thing I forgot. You need to remove the two large grommets at the top of the metal carrier and then slightly lower the window untill you see the two clamps (plastic clips - one of which will be broken) that clamp the glass in place. Loosen these and then manually lift the glass to the top of the door and tape it out of the way. If you don't do this then you'll never get the metal carrier out!.

EDIT - Err for wiper motor above read Window motor

 

[Mikedav]

Based on these comments I think mines doing this on the rear right window then. Its slwoed right up, drags and struggles about 3/4 up...sometimes the anti trap kicks in and it goes down again. But its sold so I ddont care anymore! []

 

[1.8T]

quote:

Originally posted by Mikedav

Based on these comments I think mines doing this on the rear right window then. Its slwoed right up, drags and struggles about 3/4 up...sometimes the anti trap kicks in and it goes down again. But its sold so I ddont care anymore! []

Lucky its sold then as I'm sure they don't do a metal repair kit for the rear windows on either Golf or Bora. You have to buy yhe whole regulator complete with plastic clips all ready to break another day.

 

[Chris]

My rear right is doing the exact same thing.......and showed up on VAG-COM as an 'Intermittent Fault'..... needless to say, its locked from the front now, to stop any fiddly passengers breaking it!

 

[Tabs]

Thanks for the further info Mark.

Why is it the window that doesn't get the most use, is the one that ends up breaking? I've used the drivers side window every day but hardly ever used my passenger window.... It's just further proof the world is in fact, mad!

 

[1.8T]

Strange isn't it.. All I konw is that I spend far too many hours fixing stupid design faults like this. I've had so many problems like this with the Mk4 that I never had with any other car I've owned.

I'm sure that if I was paying dealer service rates to get all these things fixed I'd have to sell the wife to pay for it all.

Just going out now to fix my glove box door which refuses to stay shut because the internals have broken. Can't buy the internals so have to change the whole door !! proof that VW are infact, mad!

 

[Tabs]

Picked up my fixing kits from VW today. I'm suprised at the amount of stuff you get with the kit for the price.

All going well I should be fitting the kits over the weekend. If I had a camera I would document the procedure, as I think it would be of benefit to everyone to know how to do the fix.

 

[David]

What's the part number and price, i'm at the dealer's for my MOT on Sat so may aswell pick one up just in case

 

[mk4 Turbo]

I paid nearly £7 for my fixing kit, but not got round to fitting it yet. Do you have to use the cable that comes with it too?

 

[ronaldmacdonald]

bung the cables (unless yours are snapped). You only need those metal reinforced beauties.

 

[Tabs]

Dave part number is 1JE 898 099 - they're about £4.50 per side.