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I think the V5 will probably go as I have been thoroughly pi$$ed of by VW's lack of ability to repair any fault that it develops.

I want a 5 door, safe, quick-ish, economical car that will corner okay-ish. It has to be new or nearly new. I don't want to spend a penny over £16k.

I was thinking about a Seat Leon 150pd Cupra, any other sugestions?

Thanks for any advice.
 

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The new A3

Skoda Fabia RS - only 12k

Another Golf - TDI etc

As you said Seat Leon.

But I think your giving up too easliy..... Try other garages.
 

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Try some other dealers mate - it's a good bet.

Get on the blower and talk to some other dealers in the area

Give them a sob story and get them on your side........play on their motivations:

like: "I'm a very loyal person, but my current dealer is has boon so poor at fault finding, i daren't even trust them with the next service.

They just can't find the fault with the car.......

I'm also looking to change the car soon.

Can you recommend a dealer who can help me.....i'm sure they would be grateful to get the warranty, servicing and the sales business from a new customer"

Along those lines.......butter them up a bit......in fact - go in person and ask to speak to the tech in person.
 

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I know its a ford, but you can get fully loaded Focus ST170's for less than 16k! there is one in my local ford dealer, 5dr, 17's, a/c, 4k, 03 reg going for £14k
 

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Quote: posted by foxy on 08/02/2004 10:47:32

Ade

Try some other dealers mate - it's a good bet.

Get on the blower and talk to some other dealers in the area

Give them a sob story and get them on your side........play on their motivations:

like: "I'm a very loyal person, but my current dealer is has boon so poor at fault finding, i daren't even trust them with the next service.

They just can't find the fault with the car.......

I'm also looking to change the car soon.

Can you recommend a dealer who can help me.....i'm sure they would be grateful to get the warranty, servicing and the sales business from a new customer"

Along those lines.......butter them up a bit......in fact - go in person and ask to speak to the tech in person.

Foxy

There's no point in trying another dealer as it is VW UK's warranty department causing the problems. My dealer wants to try various things (like an ECU), but VW UK dealer support will not authorise it as they say there is nothing wrong (no codes were stored this time). I can understand that the dealer would not want to buy in such expensive item to try, as they could be left out of pocket.

VW UK are the problem.

I have given up with them, I really believe that VW UK do not have the technical competence to sort the problem. It's such a shame, as the V5 is a cracking car when it is going well.
 

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I feel the same way about my 1.8T it a great car when running well. Unfortunately the problems I have had to put up will have not made owning it an enjoyable experience it has just run out of warrenty and I'm now worried that I will be left with huge repair bills. However, I can't really afford to change my car at the moment so it's a catch 22 situation. VW reliabilty is not all it's cracked up to be. For 16K I would go for an A3
 

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Your obviously used to the mpg of the V5, Ade, so why not go for a Leon Cupra R?

I sympathise about your problems with VW UK - been there myself. An utterly useless bunch of idiots - no technical knowledge, and a bizarre policy of backing the dealers all the way, whilst frustrating customers!!

I love my car, when its running well....... if i ever started getting big problems, id probably get shot of it. The hassle of a problem with a VW far outweighs the enjoyment of the car itself.
 

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IMO the best car would be a nearly new 150TDI Golf (might even find a new import for £16K). The leon sounds a good buy but won't retain value as well as the Golf. One car I would not buy is a Focus ST170 for the following reasons: 1. It's a Ford. 2. Ford build/trim quality. 3. They're not that well equipped in standard spec(no climate etc). 4. Residual value; especially when new model is launched. 5. Not that quick(criticised in tests).
 

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Guys, thanks for all the input. I'm going to find out what the dealer will give me for the V5, and then make a decision about a new car.

I've got a mate who works for an Audi dealer (he got me an amazing deal on my A3), he is going to look into a deal on an A3 or A4.

I have been to look at Leons, and found that in the interior they have use a very similar plastic to the MkV Golf (cheap and nasty). The dash is the same shape as my A3, but the dials as awful (Max Power special), and the MFA is about 2 generations behing the Golf.

I spoke to a mate at a Ford dealer, he told me not to get a Focus as it would seem cheap and nasty compared to the Golf. The only plus point for the Focus is the handling.

The new A3 is 3 door only, so that rules that out (nipper is getting much bigger, so rear doors are a must).

At the moment, other than A4's, a 130pd Sport Passat or a 150pd Golf seem like the best bet. The 150pd Cupra is over priced (it looks good on the out side but on the interior it is an budget car).

I want to buy a new house this year, so I am going to go for an economical car, that pretty much rules out sporty petrol cars. I hate to say it, but it looks like I will end up with 2 diesels.

I'm not sure what to do, so I'm not going to rush into any decision.
 

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From my reckoning, the TDi's out-perform the petrol engined VW's for reliability by a long way.

Maybe it's time you took a journey over to the dark side.........mu-ha, mu-ha-ha-ha!!! LOL!
 

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Quote: posted by foxy on 08/02/2004 21:23:37

Ade

From my reckoning, the TDi's out-perform the petrol engined VW's for reliability by a long way.

Maybe it's time you took a journey over to the dark side.........mu-ha, mu-ha-ha-ha!!! LOL!

My A3 Tdi has pretty much convinced me that for personal ownership, the PD Tdi's are hard to beat (I would have an R32 if it was a company car[:D]).
 

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Go Ade! Save yourself! Quick before they get you! You don't want a diesel please no no nooooooo[/chloroform]
 

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Quote: posted by Royster on 08/02/2004 21:28:04

Go Ade! Save yourself! Quick before they get you! You don't want a diesel please no no nooooooo[/chloroform]

LOL! I feel dirty and ashamed for saying it, but 'heavy oil' can now produce cheap power (even if they do still sound like tractors[;)]).

I'm still a petrol head at heart, it's just I need to start saving some serious money.

We have to move into the catchment area for the school that my wife wants my son to go to, however the rest of Guildford want to send their kids to the same school. I think I will need to spend at least an extra £100k on the new house.

One of my many options is trading the V5 down to a simple basic Polo type car, then running a ZX6R for fun (however the missus is not keep on me getting back into bikes).

Quote: posted by hmi1750 on 08/02/2004 21:39:32

get a mazda 3.... great value and doing well in most reviews.

I must admit that I stopped buying car mags just over a year ago as I didn't want to be tempted away from the V5. I haven't looked at Mazda's for a while, as the 'Zoom zoom' advertising made me cringe.
 

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Quote: posted by Chris on 08/02/2004 22:13:41

Mmmmmmmm, A4 Sport with Votex kit [:D]

[;)] I'm looking into the A4 today.
 
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