[AdeMcG]

Guys,

I have just come down the M6 (a nice 80 MPH) in my GT TDI 130, for a spot of overtime to fund some summer mods [], as I pulled on to the off ramp , turned my cruise control off and turned left at the junction (droping it to 4th gear) the heater plug (spring like symbol) on the dash board lit up and started to flash, and the message "Workshop required" flashed up on the centre info panel.[:O][]

There was no decrease in performance, I got to work, some 3 miles further on,just fine, stopped and re-started the engine ok, and the light did not come back on.[?]

Does anyone know what this is ?

Will I now be stuck in work, will the engine start from cold again ?

It is a bit of a worry !

The annual service is due soon, could this be a built in "GET ME TO THE STEALER for SERVICE,..NOW !!" type message ?

Any advice or tips most gratefully recieved.

 

[shtu]

Check the brakelights are working.

If all the bulbs are blown or the switch is damaged, you get a warning like that.

 

[AdeMcG]

[?][?] Brake lights ?

I did hit the brakes just before it happened and I have read on here about the relay 109 ??

Could it be this relay ?

What is the part number of this relay ?

And where the hell does it go anyone got some pics / install guide ??

I will check my brake lights right now !

Cheers

Ade

 

[Glowplug]

This happened to me.....flashing plug symbol give me a real scare! After lots of 'head scratching', I found out that the brake lights wasn't working only the 3rd did! Replaced the bulbs and it disappeared.

I also experienced when an indicator light bulb is not working and needs replacing, the dashboard left n right indicators lights flash at same time to warn me! Nice detail. Wonder if others cars have this feature.

 

[Foxy]

Brake light bulb.......perhaps broken filament making intermittent contact

 

[AdeMcG]

I find it difficult to see the sense of VW sometimes,.....how and why would they let a fault condition on a lighting circuit play funny buggers with a glow plug waring light ??

Beyond me !

I am going to check the motor,...will update as soon as, thanks for all your leads guys, I am no longer filling my duds with the prospect of an expensive trip to the stealers !!

 

[micky 32]

that happened to my fathers PD passat, but both brake light bulbs have to be gone to create a fault code.

 

[AdeMcG]

Update:

All brake lights are out, but bulbs are ok, my mate plugged his VAGCOM in and it came up with the following code:

16955: BPPS ( break pedal position switch)

My Cruise control has also ceased to work, I think this switch on the break pedal has gone, or the Relay (109 ?)

Anyone got a part number of this relay ??

I need to get to the stealers ASAP tomorrow and buy a few things, this being one of them me thinks!

 

[leetdi22]

sound like the brake pedal switch this switch is part of the cruse control setup aswell

 

[ReflexGolfologist]

Funny Question....but is the remote central locking working?

If NOT then check fuse 13 or 14 (i think) its the 10A mini blade ones at the top sectioon of the inner door box..

I have a 130 and blew a few fuses at the weekend....so nicked a fuse from another appliance to tide me to Halfords.......

Little did i know id nicked the brake light fuse!!!!!!!! OPPS officer![]

And i think the retro fit/std criuse relies on theis fuse also (maybe wrong) ?

Good luck

Worth a check

If fuse is replace it wont clear the glow plug flashing and beep untill the brake pedal is pressed (makes the circuit & see's all is fine)

Failing that - relay 109

 

[ReflexGolfologist]

Sori - but if it has blown the fuse then you need to find the cause - is the criuse retro fit?

No offence but you mayve chaffed a live etc?

Hope it helps.....[!]

 

[AdeMcG]

Hi,

I have checked all of the fuses, all are fine.

All of the bulbs in the brake lights are fine too.

Yes, the cruise is retro - fit, but Vagcom is pointing to the pedal position switch, I will be in the stealers first thing, try and cover all angles I will get the switch and the relay.

Cheers for all the help guys, much appreciated.

ADe

 

[UK Paul]

Quote: posted by AdeMcG on 06/03/2005 19:08:47

Update:

All brake lights are out, but bulbs are ok, my mate plugged his VAGCOM in and it came up with the following code:

16955: BPPS ( break pedal position switch)

My Cruise control has also ceased to work, I think this switch on the break pedal has gone, or the Relay (109 ?)

Anyone got a part number of this relay ??

I need to get to the stealers ASAP tomorrow and buy a few things, this being one of them me thinks!

Part no. for info. is 1J0906381A, you can be sure you have the right part as it has 109 written on it!!

 

[N42eer]

Or just ask them for relay 109. cost ?12.75. they'll know exactly what your on about. Let us know on the progress on the brake pedal switch, as my cruise is not working either, since I brought the car.

 

[AdeMcG]

I have just bought both parts from the stealer (brake pedal position switch and relay 109) ?21 in total, will be fitted later today.

Funny thing is that as soon as I pulled on the Dealer car park, the waring stopped and the brake lights worked !!

 

[bigalvw]

thats because its the switch..mine did excactly the same took me weeks to find out before i could get on a vag/com.

 

[shtu]

Er, forget relay 109 -

It's nothing to do with the brakes.

It affects engine starting\running.

It doesn't throw a fault code when it fails.

Common problem, just not yours!

 

[Stevoraith]

Same thing happened on mine a couple of years ago - it was the switch under the brake pedal.

Only happened intermittantly too.

The bad thing was that no-one on here knew what it was (think I may have had the dubious honour of having the first failing brake light switch on uk-mkivs []) so I pooped myself for a couple of days thinking that I was going to have a huge bill, until I got it into the dealers and they fixed it in an hour!

 

[N42eer]

Where exactly is this brake pedal switch located.

 

[AdeMcG]

The brake pedal switch is located under the trim around the bottom of the steering wheel, right at the back where the brake pedal meets the bulkhead.

I swaped (Well actually Neil-S did, cheers mate ) ) the switch and the relay, just to cover all angles, it sounds funny, but the cruise now responds that little bit more rapidly,..sounds mad but it feels that way.

The guy on the parts desk in Warrington VW reckons he has sold 25 of these in the last 3 months, I got the last one and he had just ordered another 30 units,...sounds like a popular fault !

Cheers for all your help guys, it calmed my nerves, thought it was a "big buck" fault when the "ENGINE WORKSHOP ! " message flashed up,....I pooped myself.