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Just wondering has anyone NOT changed the cam belt and water pump at 60K ? As my car is due this service now!

Should i get it done right away or can i wait a few thousand miles more? (skint) Or should i look at it as...."if its not broke dont fix it?"

Thanks!!
 

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You don't mention what engine you have.

My pump at 82K (1.8T AGU) was still working although it was showing signs of iminent failure. The idler puley bearing was noisey, belt looked fine and the tensioner was fine.

I'm not saying you will be fine to wait, but mine lasted OK to 82K, I do mainly Motorway miles and have been chipped in one form or another since about 20K.

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I would advise changing the cambelt every 60K or three years which ever comes sooner.

Changing the water pump envloves removing the cambelt and tensioner. The pump is known to be a weak point in the mkiv. It's a judgment call. Most stealers recommend changing the water pump at the same time as do a lot of independant specialist garages. Doing it whilst the cambelt and tensioner are already off will save on the labour charge if it fails over the next 60k (or three years).

Personally I will change my pump for a genuine VAG item when I change my belts in March this year as you get, iirc, a two year parts warranty with a new VAG pump.

Hope this helps.
 

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Personally I'd get it done ASAP, along with the tensioner, you could
leave it a while longer but you best have your fingers crossed till you
do and carry some lucky heather around with you at all times [:)]

If it breaks you'll be kicking yourself "Oh Woe is me....Why
didn't I get it done?"

The difference between a couple of hundred quid
now and possibly a couple of thousand later!!![:O]
 

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My water pump failed around the 70K mark, I'd get it done whilst its in
for a service, much less trouble than getting it booked in once its
gone!
 

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i was told the cambelt on an aum wont need changing till 100k. mine done 87k and dont think its had one but will have in the next couple of weeks.
 

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Had my belt and water pump done today after (wait for it) 25,000 miles.  Wanted to do the belt because the car is now almost 6 years old and the belt has had to endure Caribbean heat and humidity before being subjected to UK weather.  Haven't been to collect the car yet so I've yet to see the pump, but my contact at the dealer told me that it was a good call on my part because the pump was on the way out.  I've replaced it with one from GSF with a metal impeller.
 

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i'm pretty sure my water pump wasnt done when the cambelt and tensioners were done.

will it cause much damage to my car if the water pump fails before i get it changed?
 

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Mine were changed yesterday at 66k and 7 years old. The cambelt, tensioner and roller all looked fine; the water pump had a slight leak but other than that looked OK. The plastic impeller on the pump was fine.
 

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Just had mine done at 77k - belt, tensioners and pump. Apparently although VW orig said the belt was good for 100k, the tensioners were not, resulting in the same net result = destroyed engine!

Being as the belt has to come off for the water pump, which provides all the cooling (esp important on turbo engines), it is recommended that these are done at the same time - as said above the pump is a weak spot - mine was showing signs of wear, so I am glad it was done.

Paid ?285 all in for the above work - much better than ?2500 for an engine rebuild if it failed!
 

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I did mine last week, spent ?125 on all the bits (OEM from VW timing belt, Aux belt, tension pulley, idler, G12 coolant, and water pump from GSF). The job is not too bad, the hardest part is getting the timing right, as the crank moves very easily, but got there in the end. Another sod was getting the pump out of the block, needed to prise it out using plastic wedges. The whole job took about 6 hours, not going b***s out. I could have got it sorted by VW, or a specialist, but I have access to a large workshop, and have all the tools in my garage, also wanted the challenge!

Post removal inspection of the pump, showed it was in a sorry state, with cracking on the impellor. There was also evidence of a coolant leak from the gland behind the pulley. The pump may have done another 40K (changed at 52K) but who knows, with a bit of twisting to see if the impellor would spin on the shaft, and it crumbled in my hand.

If in doubt, get it out!

SB
 

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I think it was bowdie's cam belt that went and cost him nigh on ?1500 to repair, iirc.  That was after the valves started bouncing around the cylinders.... get it done.
 

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i had my cambelt changed at 98k i didnt relise then that the water pump needed doing as well, so 2weeks after the belt was changed, the water pump died lol
 

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Thanks a lot for all the information guy's. I am definetly getting it donr now! I will let you know how i get on. Thanks again.
 

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I did mine last week, spent ?125 on all the bits (OEM from VW timing belt, Aux belt, tension pulley, idler, G12 coolant, and water pump from GSF). The job is not too bad, the hardest part is getting the timing right, as the crank moves very easily, but got there in the end. Another sod was getting the pump out of the block, needed to prise it out using plastic wedges. The whole job took about 6 hours, not going b***s out. I could have got it sorted by VW, or a specialist, but I have access to a large workshop, and have all the tools in my garage, also wanted the challenge!

Post removal inspection of the pump, showed it was in a sorry state, with cracking on the impellor. There was also evidence of a coolant leak from the gland behind the pulley. The pump may have done another 40K (changed at 52K) but who knows, with a bit of twisting to see if the impellor would spin on the shaft, and it crumbled in my hand.

If in doubt, get it out!

SB
Top man stokebaloon. I wish I had your confidence and ability (and tools) to do this job myself but I'm afraid I'm a shi**bag when it comes to big jobs like this.
 

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Thanks a lot for all the information guy's. I am definetly getting it donr now! I will let you know how i get on. Thanks again.
When you do get it done, make sure you ask for a water pump with metal impellor instead of the plastic one as these are far more reliable.
 
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