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Handling: the R32. From what I understand the V6 Clio is somewhat wayward when cornering, and has a worrying tendancy to spin out.

Acceleration: The Clio. Come on, it's no contest - a stripped out Clio with a V6 strapped to the rear wheels is always going to out-accellerate a portly R32.

Desirability: the R32, hands down. The Clio looks, in my opinion, ridiculous. A Max Power reader's wet dream. No rear seats, no luggage space. A turning circle worse than a 18-wheeler. Not my cup of tea at all.

Overall, the R32 wins by a country mile.
 

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If your talking performance & handling then surely the latest Clio V6 is hands down the winner no??

I know how much you boys worship the R but think pound for pound etc the Clio would win if its a & b roads -

HOWEVER

I'd still go for the R - as inside is still same as a 1.2 "mtv" clio ;-)
 

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iirc an r32 has 225bhp and a v6 has about the same? not sure on these figures though. neither of them are lightweight cars, even if the clio hasnt got back seats, although the r32 would weigh slightly more due to its transmission etc. desirability wise, r32's are more sensible, but the v6's are more unique, and the styling is either a love it or hate it thing.

i'd better say this again in case u lot start whining, i'm not trying to say clios are better here, just a lively debate would be nice lol.

just for the record, if it was my money i'd have an r32 over the clio, but the clio does has its advantages.
 

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Think the latest V6;s are more like 250bhp !! :-D

Not sure on price but I think you can pick up the latest ones brand new for about ?24k
 

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Clio Sport 255, ?28k, Very nice car. New version far better then last. Extreme car, no back seats, hot, cheap interior, looks great - if not a little to much for some. RWD (which I miss)

Golf R32 240, ?22k, Very nice car, Flagship Golf, Not so extreme and very practical, good interior, looks class, AWD Haldex, non current model.

Quite different considering they are both hatch backs - I think the Clio is aimed at trackday bods more then everyday use.

There - end of.
 

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an r32 has 225bhp

Nope. Only slightly off mind, the R32 has 237bhp as standard, although a lot of them are pushing out considerably more than that in standard form now! Mine has 248 and I know of others that have 250+.

I do like the Clio V6, but it would have to be as a weekend car as I'm not sure I could deal with the noise and heat that comes from having the engine just behind you! The R32 will probably be slightly slower off the mark than the Clio, however the R32's AWD launches would probably help even out the weight advantage the Clio has.

Handling I can't really comment on as I haven't driven a Clio V6. It would seem sensible to think that the Clio would become a little 'tail happy' when cornering at speed whereas the R32 likes to understeer a little and then transfer the power to the rear wheels and sling you round the corner!

Desireability? About the same I guess, depends on what you like really.

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I voted R32 purely because I dont like the look of clio's. I wouldnt buy a car I dont like the look of regardless of how quick it is.

I know what I'd spend 22K on as I have. [:)]
 

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If you check track figures and overall performance they are actually very close (R32 very slightly quicker than older V6 but about the same as current one).

I think the Clio is mad but I like it. It is however French so has a dire interior and will soon blow up![B)]
 

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andrewm, oxford and hornetrider.....why even post here ffs??? im asking a serious question, if you've got nothing to add them dont post, its not difficult?
 

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Clio V6's look totally awesome from outside - Reminds me of a SWB Quattro Sport from the 80's, what with it's bulging wheel arches, and short wheel base!

Full credit to Renualt for building such a wacky car! totally insane, totally cool, totally desireable!

To answer the question, which one has better

Handling

Accelaration

desirability

Well Clio V6 probably is more of driver's car - RWD, midengined, Old style 911 dynamics

Accelaration - dunno, read up the stats if you can be bothered - probably much the same

Desirability - hmmm Clio is probably more WOW, but I wouldn't ever spend ?25K+ on a it. Proper shoddy build quality, crap interior, bla bla bla.. But of course, this is all personal opinion.

Everyone has different criteria when choosing cars
 

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hi guys,

i thought id join this forum to voice my opinion as a Cilo V6 owner, mk1 model. also my colleague has a R32 (ukghost on here) so ive driven both and we have had a few blasts.

ok, first off the handling. the golf is better. ESP and 4wd will rarely be beaten, but as said a few posts up, the clio is much like an old porsche 911, it is tail happy (abit too much IMO) and needs a careful corner entry. too fast, and you wont be forgiven, even sideways or into the kerb. dont get me wrong, it goes round bends fast and well, but it takes some getting used to and cannot be driven fast straight away until its been learnt as the front end is light and vague.

speed wise, no contest. forget the figures that mags quote. the clio wins 0-100 by a fair margin (tested). it reaches 66mph in 2nd, and launches the same as the golf, no wheelspin just goes forward. the golf to me seemed to hit the limiter sooner than it wanted to. after 100 mph, i dont know and havent tested it.

desirability is down to personal taste. my clio is a beast and you have to see one to appreciate it. the noise is tremendous, TVR like IMO, and EVERYBODY looks. road presence has never been experienced like this before.

it is an acquired taste, and many think its max power (usually the ones that havent ever seen it in the flesh). the mk2 is more refined, with the extra toys being crusie control and all that, but the mk1 is the original hooligan of the 2 models. mk2 is slightly faster at 255 bhp and handles slightly better.

despite the practicalilty issues - it has a surprising amount of room under the bonnet for shopping, a handy cargo netted area behine the seats for 3 tesco shopping bags, although obviously not aimed at a family man.

all in all - ive voted clio, having driven both cars i found the golf a boring car, thats just my personal taste, and this is my opinion ofcourse. many clio v6's have coverd higher miles now and no problems at all. its a strong engine and box and is raced in clio trophy championships.

id probably say that they cannot be compared out right though, as they are a little too different. the clio is too extreme for many people, but the golf can be used as a practical everyday car. i find the R32 too common for me, i like exclusivity myself.

hope my contribution is welcome. [:)]
 

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rjkc600,

Great fair comparison. I've not driven either but from comments that I've read, an R32 is far from boring. They get plenty of controlled drifting and sideways action. I'd imagine that you haven't pushed the R32 hard through the twisties as it's not your car. It's just that it's so sorted, that the limits are way beyond what you'd expect.

But it's nice to read an informed post that says more than 'my cars better than yours.'
 
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