[Saxovtrjamii]

Hi guys,

im new to the forum, the reason I have joined because id like some info
about the TDi 150 as Im thinking about getting one as my next car.

I own a Saxo VTS (dont worry im not a baseball wearing lout) and its a
very enjoyable car to drive day in day out, but im getting a bit pissed
off with regular fuel stops and want something more reliable (not that
its let me down yet), bigger, better MPG, better built, but just as
fast.

so i looked into the TDi range and thought this one would be a good choice.

what should i look out for if there are any common faults and is milage a problem, can they go on forever so to speak?

service intevals....cost etc.

any info would be very grateful

Cheers

 

[sk4tec]

Don't expect it to handle like a saxo, or a Xara VTS for that matter (I used to have a 306 XSi).
Its more of a comfortable GTi, though u can make it handle better with
suspension tuning though.

The torque is amazing, wheelspin in 1st, 2nd and sometimes 3rd in the
wet. Service intervas can be set to variable meaning u could go to a
max of 2 years or 30 thou (or is that 20 thou?) miles.

Mileage u should see between 400 and 450 from a tank depending on how u
drive it. Problems appear to be with MAFs (mass air flow) - mines been
fine though.

Also be prepared to top up oil, TDi's use oil (not a bad
thing as they do run on oil so propper running in can take 20,000 -
meaning that they last a lot longer). Oil needs to be VW approved. It
will be badged as TDI all red or GTI
all silver.

I guess there might be a case too look at the mk 5 140, in GT spec. Its
meant to handle much better. Go and test drive one - u will never want a petrol again

 

[nickh]

Get one and you won't regret it. I used to have a 206 GTi before my golf, and in gear the golf feels quicker than the pug. It takes a little while to get used to the different power delivery, as the saxo needs thrashing (just like my 206 did) to get the best from it.

The 206 was lighter and more nimble than the golf, but it felt twitchy as you like at the same time and the back end used to step out on a regular basis. In comparison the golf feels so solid and so much safer, its also much more comfortable.

Go for it!

[H]

 

[Jace]

"Ya dont wana do that !, ya wana do this"

Somebody told me the 1.8t is the best golf [][][][][]

Yea right []

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

Thanks chaps

The only thing im wondering is whether the MPG will be 'noticebly' different.

I have never really filled the saxo up to the brim, but im guessing i
should be able to put in ?25 worth of unleaded. so return around 250
miles

when you say i should get around 400 - 450 from a tank, thats going to
be roughly 150 - 200 miles more, now when i look at it like that, it
appeals more

Now what is the performance like once an aftermarket exhaust is fitted,
and a decent enclosed air filter, would i see noticeble gains or would
a 'chip' or 'remapped' ecu be more beniftial?

Thanks

 

[turbo paul]

With a remap you could expect between 180 and 190 bhp with some serious torque []. Much better value for money than an exhaust and filter

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

Goin back to the MPG, wouldnt I see more like 500 to 550 miles from a tank?

 

[Jace]

I get that easy in my Jabba remapped PD150, I'd say 80% of the time I get 50-55mpg, & according to JBS rollers its pushing out 185bhp

& TBH, I was getting similar mpg prior to the remap, oh & I've also changed the filter to a Piper-X one for a bit better breathing.

I'd say it goes:

Panel filter

Remap

Exhaust

Then it goes:

Large amounts of cash required [:O]

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

cheers Jace

Have you had any relibility problesm with say the clutch or gearbox pushing out that extra break and torque?

 

[Jace]

Nah she's been sweet, I had her done mid march & I've done about 5k since with no problems at all, total milage is almost 64k now too.

I think as long as you dont rag it out the lights the clutch is fine up to 300lb, over that its Haldex time (about a grand). If I remember right mine was showing about 280lb on the rollers. [H]

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

hell man

you ?1000, is that for the clutch and fitting or just the clutch?

 

[Jace]

hell man

you ?1000, is that for the clutch and fitting or just the clutch?

I believe thats fitted, Re : Allard

 

[Chris'n'Lau]

hi- just purchased a 130 myself after upgrading from a VTS - funny hey !!!

I loved the VTS at first but it deteriorated gradually, no matter how much money I spent on it- anyway last week a truck driver decided to put me out my mysery and wrote it off- roll on Golf !!!![]

 

[james]

I don't know if your mpg will be noticeably different.

250 miles to ?25 of unleaded is pretty good. I suspect it costs a lot more to fill up a golf with diesel, probably

around the ?40-?50 mark, in which case you are looking like getting similar mileage per pound.

The golf will also be a completely different type of drive, which is no bad thing. Where the saxo has kart like

handling and a long revy powerband, the golf isn't so nible round the bends but has a walloping great chunk

of torque from low down in the rev range, but you got to catch the gearchange pretty quick in low gears as the

powerband isn't massive. The golf makes motorway driving and overtaking in normal conditions very very easy

though.

Best bet is just to get in one and have a drive. I loved the first drive I had in a pd150, great fun []

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

That is funny

how is it compared, same enjoyment levels?

what about the speed factor, because once the vts gets goin thru the gears, it gets to 100 in no time, how does it compare.

another question to everyone...

are these TDi PD engines pretty much bullet proof, because its a choice between one of these or a honda vtec (petrol i know)

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

I think the ?25 to 250 was very generous it has to be said.

since writing that ive looked on ssc and the average is 300 - 350 per tank of about ?35

now its not goin to be drastically better i dont think, as ?50 will get me around 500 miles ish you think?

 

[Jace]

That is funny
what about the speed factor, because once the vts gets goin thru the gears, it gets to 100 in no time, how does it compare.

If she's a 6speeder you should hit 100mph in 4th easily, or in 6th you'll be doing it @ 3k revs[]

another question to everyone...

are these TDi PD engines pretty much bullet proof, because its a choice between one of these or a honda vtec (petrol i know)

VW -HONDA are both pretty much bullet proof id say, however the VW will love the big miles more , plus you'll be getting 50mpg plus 9/10 times[]

 

[Saxovtrjamii]

In the VTS i will get about 32 - 35 mpg, now the golf should be
48-55mpg, but pound for pound it doesnt seem much difference going on
the figures im hearing.

how much does it costs to fill up the tank on the golf?

 

[firestorm996]

It costs me ?40 almost exactly from the reserve light, I get at least
500miles from a tank. I'm getting 52-56mpg on my daily commute
(some motorway, some stop-start traffic) and on a longer run down to
London at the weekend it got 59mpg over the whole trip with a mix of
70-85mph cruising and a bit of stop-start.

That's on a GTTDI 115 PD by the way, not the 150 but to be honest,
off-boost they seem to get pretty much the same mileage. I've
just sold my 106 Rallye, much the same as the VTS in many ways and the
difference in comfort is amazing. I miss the go-kart handling of
the 106, but the Golf can be made to handle by all accounts.

Cost-wise I was getting 40mpg out of the 106 so I'm probably only
saving 20 quid a month on fuel, but there's more to it than just
mpg. The golf is better in every respect apart from handling, and
that can be sorted relatively cheaply.

 

[Chris'n'Lau]

ye the VTS was like a go-cart and very very fast to 60 if you screw it through to 4.5k revs but I will NOT miss it one bit. It's time to be a king of the road, rather than be victimised beacuse you're in a Saxo !!!!

It's gonna be fun adapting to the Golf on the lanes I reckon- especially if you like driving on the gears !