[Blue V5]

Ok, obviously there is a big price difference... but is this also indicative of the quality?

I'm aware that the Eibachs won't be here till october but if there is
no difference in the performance of the 2 then i'm prepared to wait.

I want an uprated rear ARB but also require an uprated front as my
stock one is hitting my drivers side axle. I've got a nice contact ring
on it!

 

[shiuming]

Which one is more expensive? Neuspeed already weighs in at ?185 and ?195 for the 25 mm and 28 mm respectively. How much more can a metal bar cost?

 

[GaryM]

The Eibach pair could be had for around ?230, without a doubt the best option with everything considered.

 

[shiuming]

Ah, for a pair. The Neuspeed prices are for the rear bar only [:S]

 

[GaryM]

Ah, for a pair. The Neuspeed prices are for the rear bar only [:S]

Yes, so in comparison they are very poor value.

 

[Andrew]

Rich, how about some H&R ARB's, are there any of them about?  Venom motorsports sell a front anti roll bar by FK for around ?90 but I don't know what it's like.  The adverts say you can lower 100mm with it.  Maybe a combination of the FK front and Neuspeed rear if no others are available.

 

[GaryM]

I have a H&R front on mine, very similar in price to the Neuspeed.

 

[terrapin]

what are the FK ones like on the front???

 

[Blue V5]

Hmmm... i think i'll wait in that case. I've heard a lot of good things
about the Eibachs - apart from them shutting up shop in summer! []

 

[Sem]

I've decided to wait for the Eibach's too.....?185 for a metal bar is just ridiculous.

 

[Reflex TDI]

I've owned both types;

Rear 25mm Neupseed on PD130

H&R front and rear kit (identical to Eibach) on PD150.

My 2p is that the rear bar is a great mod that transforms the MkIV handling, but the front bar really does add a lot to the equation - the PD150 has very high levels of grip and doesn't run wide until really provoked and physics take over. The car can be steered on the throttle and I have run rings around a deserted local roundabout finding where the limits lie on a few occasions.[]

The powder coating on the Neuspeed is to a higher quality, but it sits under the car so does it matter??? The H&R rear bar ends fix straight onto the rear beam at the bottom of the damper, whereas the Neuspeed has an adjustable rose jointed link, so that one of three stiffness settings can be s elected on the bar end.. I set the Neuspeed in the middle and never felt the urge to adjust it. Having the rose jointed link is just a point of weakness - the H&R seems more beefy.

The other point I would make is that if you are buying Neuspeed, don't buy the 28mm bar unless you know you want it. The 25mm bar is plenty good enough and I would imagine suits ropey UK conditions better.

 

[Blue V5]

Thanks Reflex, great info there.

Sem, i did start this thread partly for you as i knew you were after an
ARB but didn't wanna go diving into your thread in the awesome forum
and letting you know about the Eibachs.

I also wanted to make sure the Eibachs were a viable option.

 

[awesome_dean]

I won't slate Eibach as there are great quality! But Neuspeed are in a different league, Fitting kit is better, quality of steel is beeter and the way its made is better. Its like comaring a ford to a volkswagen....Which would you go for???

And as far as i'm aware Eibach don't have the bigger hoop to clear the driveshaft

Hope this helps

Dean

 

[Sem]

And as far as i'm aware Eibach don't have the bigger hoop to clear the driveshaft

So the H&R and Eibach are not identical then (as previously stated in this thread?)

GaryM has a H&R front on his Golf and has gone pretty low on his coilovers without any driveshaft rubbing issues AFAIK.

 

[PHIL_M]

I will second that dean, I have just replaced my front Eibach for a Neuspeed because it was rubbing on the driveshaft, The Neuspeed is alot thicker and better quality and i got a noticable difference in handling when changing, So Imo its worth the extra cash.[]

 

[GaryM]

And as far as i'm aware Eibach don't have the bigger hoop to clear the driveshaft

So the H&R and Eibach are not identical then (as previously stated in this thread?)

GaryM has a H&R front on his Golf and has gone pretty low on his coilovers without any driveshaft rubbing issues AFAIK.

Definatly no rubbing with my H&R and I've been lower than I am now.

 

[EddyH]

I won't slate Eibach as there are great quality! But Neuspeed are in a different league, Fitting kit is better, quality of steel is beeter and the way its made is better. Its like comaring a ford to a volkswagen....Which would you go for???

And as far as i'm aware Eibach don't have the bigger hoop to clear the driveshaft

Hope this helps

Dean

VW or Ford? hmm Mk5 GTI for ?20k or Focus ST for ?17.5K? I'll take the ford.

Eibach sorted the hoop many years ago.

 

[awesome_dean]

if you prefer Ford what are you doing on here then! if the Eibach sorted the problem you must a very unique ARB kit! lol

Lets see how long the mkv holds its value against a ford!!!!

again its a question of quality of materials!!!

please lets keep this light hearted

All the best

Dean

 

[EddyH]

if you prefer Ford what are you doing on here then! if the Eibach sorted the problem you must a very unique ARB kit! lol

Lets see how long the mkv holds its value against a ford!!!!

again its a question of quality of materials!!!

please lets keep this light hearted

All the best

Dean

I was keeping it light hearted.

Eibach revised the design of the front ARB for 1.8T's and TDI's, however many resellers keep old stock (as I'm sure you're aware). You need to order from eibach and clarify you want the large hoop kit.

You mention the fitting of the neuspeed is better, I suppose that's only as long as you get the fittings, just a few days ago a member posted regarding his neuspeed front ARB had parts missing.

I think it's very unprofessional for a reseller to come on a public forum and slag off a manufacturers product, I expect when eibach see the posts made by Awesome staff they'll be asking for proof to back up what you're saying about their product.

So is the verdict to go for neuspeed as they hold their value better?

BTW Ford Focus RS residuals seem to compare pretty well against Golf GTI Anniversary or R32 residuals.

As you ask why I'm on here it's because I like VAG cars, doesn't mean I wear blinkers though.

 

[awesome_dean]

I think its more professional when you actually try the product you supply and give an educated judgement of what you really think of a product regardless of who makes it. As i said before i have ultimate respect for Eibach. My last mk1 had Eibach ARB's and i had no complaints.

I don't seem to remember slagging off Eibach, Please quote me if i did! Eibach have always produced products to the highest standard and i will personally continue to support them.

We are not out to kiss any behinds, we want the best. We haven't used Eibach ARB's for a while now, simply because we find Neuspeed that bit better, if you've tried them, you would understand why. And saying that i wouldn't(personally) use anything other that eibach springs.

In no way did i say that Eibach were crap! I said they were great! But Neuspeed are better. (reffering to ARB's)

This is my own view and not the veiw of Awesome. And i will continue to give an honest veiw of what i think of any product. Thats what we are here for.

Thanks for the info on updated Eibachs with the larger hoop, i wasn't aware. like i said, we haven't stocked the eibach arb's for a while now.

Sorry about the ford thing, i do have blinkers, VW nut through and through! lol. I hate fords and always will (i used to own one!!! lol)

regards,

Dean