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Im after 2 tyres for my 1.8t.

Its currently on the standrard monty 2's (205x55x16 - v91)

Ive been looking on my tyres.co.uk and there's a massive range of tyres with massive prices differences.

Now what i would like to know is if i was to go for a premium tyre would i really be able to notice any difference compared to some middel of the road tyres?

What tyres would you suggest /do you use on your 16's?

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In my opinion the difference in performance margin is small enough to not really worry about, but having a kerb protector is.  The loss of a 000th of a second is nothing in comparrison to having kerbed alloys.  Falkens for me every time.
 

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I'm away to change the fronts.

I was rushed and went to some dodgy place before and they put on a tyre that was ?26 (nice!). Mustafa Good Grip 5000 or something equally classy. He did ask what my price was and i was stupid enough to say 'nothing too pricey'. Wasn't thinking that cheap though......

Today because it's wet here, the car is sliding around all over the place. The car has always had a tendency to be a bit ropey in the rain IMO. Anyone else with a standard Golf (eg no upgraded suspension or ASR etc) notice a huge loss of grip when setting off in 1st at lights etc in wet? Car really does struggle to grip in the rain. It's only the 2.0 and uphill starts etc in the rain have the front of the car shaking.

The other 3 are Michelin which seem OK, but i'm changing the fronts to something better anyway so interested to see your replies.

BTW, what's the widest I could go on these wheels (just standard)? Would like something better than the 195's.

I think pricey tyres grip better, but wear quicker??
 

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I'd like to know how much wider i can go too.

Currently got 205's on my montys.

anyone know how much wider i can go??
 

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Mytyres.co.uk prices are amazing compared to what my local tyre garages are offering me. From mytyres.co.uk im saving about ?35-40 per tyre..........

only 1 prob though.

Ive been ringing around all morning and i cant find any tyre garage that'll fit em. all the garages will only fit the tyres they supplied.[:(]

I dread to think how much the tyre garages make on every tyre.

If mytyres can sell them at 30-40 quid less and they are still making a profit!!!!

bet there's a 70-80% mark up on em from your avareage tyre garage (kwickfit,charlie browns, ats etc).....................scandelous!!!!
 

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I cant believe it when people say it makes no difference..... it makes a HUGE difference!
I thought, well hoped it would make a big difference. I'm OK in the wet, but it's the missus i worry for really (new driver). We're not talking a huge speed round roundabouts here and it's really noticable, the missuss thought i was arsing about with the steering this morning. Like, yeah, lets play games in the wet on a roundabout......slap.....
 

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I cant believe it when people say it makes no difference..... it makes a HUGE difference!
I'm not talking about the difference between a ?20 tyre and an ?80 tyre - there is obviously differences there. I was meaning the differences between a ?65 and an ?80 tyre, ie Falken and Goodyear not the economy brands.
 

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It all depends on the tyre compound. I changed to Goodyear Eagle F1's (205/55/R16) last year from the old michelin pilot sports. Softer compound, (you can actually feel it if you run your hand across it, bits of grit have been getting stuck to them in the heat recently) but grips so much better, esp in the wet. They've been named best tyre and given lots of awards, by some german uhm.. places [:$] and also by auto express and autocar, I think ! They are completely different from the michelins I had before, but the michelins will last longer as they have a harder compund. I think that michelin have changed they're pilot sport range fairly recently and someone has said they are better than the old type, they are still expensive though. Mine were ?50 odd difference per corner [:O]

Eagle F1's:

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These are only ?64.80 at the moment. Bargain.

Toyo Proxes T1-R: Don't think these come in 16" though.

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I have just bought some of these for my new 17" rims. Will see how they go, once I get the rims refurbed and on the car. Ordered on the wednesday evening (7:50 pm iirc) and they arrived first thing monday morning, (that even includes a weekend, which means the tyres really took 2 days to get to me.) at my mums place. I even asked for them to hold the order for a week (you can s elect a 7 day 'i'll think about it period' before they send them to you) but they sent them straight away.. nemind, the service is superb, that i've received anyway.

If your doing lots of miles then get a harder compound to last you longer, Michelins are known for being quite hardwearing. If you want something grippier and are happy to accept the faster wear, then get something softer, Eagle F1's, Toyo's etc.

If anyone else has spotted any mistakes in what i've said then please correct me [Y]
 

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I've got Kumho Ectsa's on my car (225 40 R18), and have to say in the wet, they grip like a baby (not well). On a round-about after rain, I can floor it on the way out and go straight off the road if I'm not careful. I will say they last forever though.

Tyres can make a massive amount of difference if you drive hard enough. If you nip down the shops or commute back and forth to work, they won't make a lot of impact to your driving.
What you should also remember is that better grip means that you can stop quicker (your ABS doesn't need to work so hard as it's more difficult to lose traction when stopping), corner quicker and accelerate quicker - all in all making the car faster and safer.
 

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Yes tyres make a huge difference - F1 and WRC are 2 good examples at the differences tyres can make. It's one of the only direct parallels you can draw as construction and compound make such diffeernces between tyres.

It's also a very personal thing, what works for one driver won't for another.

Personally I like Kumhos, they offer a good wet/dry grip balance and don't squeal (unlike the Pirellis I've currently got ton the front!). Ohters here will extol the virtues of Goodyear, Bridgestone and others - I would suggest that you make your own choice based on your budget, the type of driving you do and the life you'd expect - i.e. if you're your driving every corner to the limits of adhesion and you can afford to change the tyres every 5k miles then go for something sticky.

Oh yes, 225/50/16s will fit on Monty IIs
 

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Bradford- west yorkshire.

Just tried charlie browns and asked

''if i was to bring my own tyre in how much would you charge??'

Reply from charlie browns

'' sorry sir we only fit tyres we supply. If you are buying tyres from the internet they could be foreign and dangerous..........so we will not fit them!''

to which i replied

''sorry but i dont see why i should pay an extra ?40 for the same tyre...good day''

what a load of bull

the fool quotes me ?103.99 for goodyear ntc5

mytyres sell em at ?57.50 including postage

I will pay upto ?90 per tyre, but obviosley only if im getting something that doesnt cost ?50 from mytyres.co.uk.......cant beleive the bloody mark up on tyres.

and you guys who are riding around on 19's.......bloody hell. Never knew how much they cost untill i saw the prices on mytyres.co.uk. ?140 each........dread to think how much the tyre garages charge you for em[:p]
 

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Not sure if they're still there but a good friend used to work for D1ck lane tyres - good prices and they know what they're doing with alloy rims (i.e. they don't scratch them)

edit just looked on Yell and can't find they're details
 

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Oh yes, 225/50/16s will fit on Monty IIs
Richard, you don't know about the 2.0 wheels do you? Can't remember what they are called now. I'm not even sure that mine are 16?? Might only be 15. I'll check when the rain goes off. The name of the wheels are bugging me now. How do you know what the limits are width wise for the wheels. Is there a quick giveaway with the radius? I know the middle number is the ratio? Suppose every wheel is different......

Avus II's that's it, I think.....
 

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Bradford- west yorkshire.

Just tried charlie browns and asked

''if i was to bring my own tyre in how much would you charge??'

Reply from charlie browns

'' sorry sir we only fit tyres we supply. If you are buying tyres from the internet they could be foreign and dangerous..........so we will not fit them!''

to which i replied

''sorry but i dont see why i should pay an extra ?40 for the same tyre...good day''

what a load of bull

the fool quotes me ?103.99 for goodyear ntc5

mytyres sell em at ?57.50 including postage

I will pay upto ?90 per tyre, but obviosley only if im getting something that doesnt cost ?50 from mytyres.co.uk.......cant beleive the bloody mark up on tyres.

and you guys who are riding around on 19's.......bloody hell. Never knew how much they cost untill i saw the prices on mytyres.co.uk. ?140 each........dread to think how much the tyre garages charge you for em[:p]
Exactly.. that is a load of BS. Pure and simple. I have had my goodyears on mine since last june. (got them from Mytyres last year) and they have been perfect. they come from germany. Mytyres as far as I can tell is part of a german company, run from glasgow, but the tyres come from germany. I got mine (last year) supplied, fitted and balanced for ?155. I think I was lucky with kwik fit at the time though, as I went in at 4:45 on a saturday hoping they'd just squeeze me in.. the guy fitted them both for ?15 cash, which i'm sure he put in his pocket !

Charlie browns just said that as mytyres are probably 45% cheaper ? They just don't like the competition.
 

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Richard, you don't know about the 2.0 wheels do you? Can't remember what they are called now. I'm not even sure that mine are 16?? Might only be 15. I'll check when the rain goes off. The name of the wheels are bugging me now. How do you know what the limits are width wise for the wheels. Is there a quick giveaway with the radius? I know the middle number is the ratio? Suppose every wheel is different......

Avus II's that's it, I think.....
I used http://www.rochfordtyres.co.uk/TyreCalc.asp to check sizes - I think the Avus IIs are 6x15 (might be 6.5x15 - not sure)
 

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Muzzy,

The boys down at National Tyres (By the Volvo dealer on Canal Road, Bradford) will fit any tyres. I got my F1s fitted there and they didn't mind at all.

Cheers

Carl
 

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Muzzy,

The boys down at National Tyres (By the Volvo dealer on Canal Road, Bradford) will fit any tyres. I got my F1s fitted there and they didn't mind at all.

Cheers

Carl
You the man!!

phoned them and its going to be ?11 for balance valve and fitting.

cheers[;)]

just got to decide what tyres to go for now.......

might consider the runflats as an option
 
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