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Hi all.

I am seriously thinking of de-locking my front doors on my mk4 Golf,
due to the well known security flaw! I just have a doubt in case
batteries fail etc, that I hope someone can answer.

If the keyfob battery dies and you're trying to get into the car, I
understand you can manually unlock the hatch with the key and crawl
in! But how about if the car battery dies on you, you crawl in
through the hatch still but how do you unlock the front doors (I
presume deadlocks wouldn't allow the doors to open). I guess the
only way would be to pop the bonnet, crawl back superman style through
the hatch and charge that car battery first?

Maybe I'm thinking too much into all this, but I'm just covering every eventuality before I go ahead and do this mod.

Thanks,

Adam
 

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Hi all.

I am seriously thinking of de-locking my front doors on my mk4 Golf, due to the well known security flaw! I just have a doubt in case batteries fail etc, that I hope someone can answer.
If the keyfob battery dies and you're trying to get into the car, I understand you can manually unlock the hatch with the key and crawl in! But how about if the car battery dies on you, you crawl in through the hatch still but how do you unlock the front doors (I presume deadlocks wouldn't allow the doors to open). I guess the only way would be to pop the bonnet, crawl back superman style through the hatch and charge that car battery first?

Maybe I'm thinking too much into all this, but I'm just covering every eventuality before I go ahead and do this mod.

Thanks,
Adam
Yeah thats exactly how you would have to charge up that battery, but just think when was the last time your battery went flat? Not like you will be doing it every morning dude !

I am going to do this to my golf definatly just need to find out how to do it! lol

Just think what situation would you rather be in

1) Oh crap my batt is flat im gonna have to climb through the boot

2) Oh crap my cars been broken in to [:(]

Unfortunately if someone wants whats inside they will 9/10 brake the window though LOL
 

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If the keyfob battery dies at the same time as the car battery then your a very unlucky person and would have to superman it back and forth, but looking at the likelyhood of this happening against the likelyhood of someone having a go at your lock I would say the pro's for this mod far outweigh the con's.

EDITED :: Damn! beaten to the same point by dizzee.
 

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hehe [:D]

You can tell if your keyfob battery is on its way out by a reduced range being transmitted [:)]

Foe example if you have to stand on the bonnet pressing the button on the fob so hard its hurting your thimb then its probably going flat lol
 

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I would advise that you change the keyfob batteries at the same time as the delock just to be safe. The fob batteries last forever...
 

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My battery always goes flat due to ICE lol but not flat enough that I
cant even unlock the doors. I delocked it about a week ago, and would
recommened EVERYONE to do the same after seeing what the flaw is all
about !

Make sure you put in the metal disc or there is absolutely no point doing the mod.

Have a look on the delock kit GB thread for instructions on how to do the mod step by step [:D]
 

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hahaha, I like it. Signs that your keyfob battery is on the way out, note to self - check for these symptoms ;-)

Hey I'm just putting contingency measures into place for what
if's. But as you said, the chances of the battery totally failing
are pretty slim (it's not happened yet). And at least there's a
workaround, even if it did give me an over-excessive workout! Now
to find the how-to stuff.

I had to adjust the cable on the handle the other day, and was
surprised at just how easy the lock barrel was to remove from the front
door! Maybe all I need now are the part numbers if anyone has
them available? Also, for the guys that did the mod already, did
you buy your own paint and spray the caps yourselves, or get vw
stealers to do it ? With it being such a small area to spray, I
guess the chance of a $?%^ up are relatively slim ;-)

Oh I must stop messing with my Golf, but I just can't help my
self! The other half gets so jealous, but I tell her, it's only a
car! uh hum.
 

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My battery always goes flat due to ICE lol but not flat enough that I cant even unlock the doors. I delocked it about a week ago, and would recommened EVERYONE to do the same after seeing what the flaw is all about !

Make sure you put in the metal disc or there is absolutely no point doing the mod.

Have a look on the delock kit GB thread for instructions on how to do the mod step by step [:D]
How long did it take to do, and also was it quite hard and fidily mate ?
 

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My battery always goes flat due to ICE lol but not flat enough that I
cant even unlock the doors. I delocked it about a week ago, and would
recommened EVERYONE to do the same after seeing what the flaw is all
about !

Make sure you put in the metal disc or there is absolutely no point doing the mod.

Have a look on the delock kit GB thread for instructions on how to do the mod step by step [:D]
I only started thinking about this when I took
the locking barrel out the other day while doing some work down
there. And you don't need to be smart to know how the thiefs do
it, gits!

How does that metal disc fit in then, do you just slap a load of glue over it and
hold it on till it sets? I noticed there is a bit of grease
around the lock housing on my car.

I can't see any mention of the part numbers needed, does anyone have them to hand at all please ?
 

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rich: Less than 5 minutes a door ... thats me doing it with care
so you can imagine how easy it is for thieves to get in without a care
in the world !! Its VERY easy heres a how to :-

Tools you will need: 1 T20 Torx screwdriver, 1 Pair of Hands, Long fingernails or a sharp knife.

1 - Unlock the car. Open the door you're working on.

2 - Locate the plastic shield/cover on the inside of the door and
use your fingernails or a knife to lever it out.

3 - Look inside the hole. You should see a gold coloured screw with
a Torx head. Unscrew this - slowly - if you unscrew it too far you will
drop the screw into the door and that'll be a whole new world of pain
awaiting you. Other people have said that it takes 7-8 turns of the
screw to loosen the lock, I disagree - on my V5 it took considerably
more turns (around 18 half turns) - please take your time and keep the screw held into place with the screw driver at all times.

Unscrew the screw and after every couple of turns, pull the outside
handle and give the lock a pull. After a few turns you should notice
the lock will become looser and looser. When it is totally loose the
locking barrel and cap should pull right out. Be aware that the barrel
is quite long - don't scratch your paintwork pulling it out!

4 - I took this opportunity to clean all the crud that accumulated under the old cap off of the door panel.

5 - Look into the hole where the barrel came out of. You should see
a circular hole with a small flat opening (ie. where the 'point' of the
barrel would meet). I believe this is the hole your little circular
metal disc goes.

Now, get some super-glue and some blu-tack, put a dab of superglue on
one side of the disc, a blob of blu-tack on the other and stick the
blu-tack end to the end of the screwdriver and pop the disc in place
and hold it until the glue sets enough for you to pull off the
blu-tack.

However, you could drop the disc into the door (and that'd be a
real *bum* if you'd already been in the door to fish out the screw!)
and you'll make it a big job to reverse your work, if you wanted to
(eg. to sell the car). The metal dis is a must though !

6 - Hold open the door handle and push the new cap into place. It should fit perfectly. Tighten up the
gold screw and pop the plastic cap back on. Et voila!

7 - Repeat the steps for the other door(s), if necessary.

Entire process should take less than 10 minutes, unless you drop the screw or disc into the door!
Wink [;)]


ukguy: how-to above.

Part numbers you need :-

1) Housing : 3B4839167

2) Cap (ready for spraying) : 3B4839879AGRU

3) Metal disc : METALDISC <---- there is no part number, just say you want the metal disc !

Good luck ! [:)]
 

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Lovely stuff, thanks Nudda!

Did you spray your cap yourself, if so do you have any tips for that at all ?
 

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npz.

Oh yeh forgot to write about that ... I was having my kit sprayed so
the sprayer included them in for free but people normally spray the
caps themselves. That or you can buy them from shaq on the GB and tell
him what colour you want the caps, theyll arrive already sprayed then
[:D]. I would go with the shaq option, although we dont know when the
GB will actually kick in, shaq is a great guy and will take care of you
[;)]

link to GB : http://www.uk-mkivs.net/forums/184529/ShowPost.aspx
 

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Thanks Nudda,

Something interesting I found out today. Say the keyfob battery dies and
I try to get in from the hatch, the alarm goes off right away when I
unlock and open the hatch, because the alarm has not been
disabled. I was always under the impression the alarm would act
under a time delay if any lock is unlocked, giving you time to put the
key in the ignition and disable it and the immobiliser. At least
this appears to be the case if you open the front doors anyway!

Easy way around it, watch out for the signs of a failing keyfob battery
(shortened range) or carry a spare thin keyfob battery around when
you're far from home!

Oh well, just learnt something new about my alarm and locking system!
 

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I guess I get it all from my flying days. Contingency planning,
what to do it I get lost, what to do if I am low on fuel, divertion in
emergency yada yada. It's all coming back to me now hahaha
 

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Your on solid land and the nearest fuel pump will most probably be walking distance ... now go delock that car [:p]
 

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Get me some god damn blanking plates and spray paint !! I am
commited to an approach at this time ;-). Oh I just love messing
with this car!! And love the info' received from these
forums! I am learning how to take it all apart like lego and put
it back together again hehehe
 

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rich: Less than 5 minutes a door ... thats me doing it with care so you can imagine how easy it is for thieves to get in without a care in the world !! Its VERY easy heres a how to :-

Tools you will need: 1 T20 Torx screwdriver, 1 Pair of Hands, Long fingernails or a sharp knife.

1 - Unlock the car. Open the door you're working on.

2 - Locate the plastic shield/cover on the inside of the door and use your fingernails or a knife to lever it out.

3 - Look inside the hole. You should see a gold coloured screw with a Torx head. Unscrew this - slowly - if you unscrew it too far you will drop the screw into the door and that'll be a whole new world of pain awaiting you. Other people have said that it takes 7-8 turns of the screw to loosen the lock, I disagree - on my V5 it took considerably more turns (around 18 half turns) - please take your time and keep the screw held into place with the screw driver at all times.

Unscrew the screw and after every couple of turns, pull the outside handle and give the lock a pull. After a few turns you should notice the lock will become looser and looser. When it is totally loose the locking barrel and cap should pull right out. Be aware that the barrel is quite long - don't scratch your paintwork pulling it out!

4 - I took this opportunity to clean all the crud that accumulated under the old cap off of the door panel.

5 - Look into the hole where the barrel came out of. You should see a circular hole with a small flat opening (ie. where the 'point' of the barrel would meet). I believe this is the hole your little circular metal disc goes.

Now, get some super-glue and some blu-tack, put a dab of superglue on one side of the disc, a blob of blu-tack on the other and stick the blu-tack end to the end of the screwdriver and pop the disc in place and hold it until the glue sets enough for you to pull off the blu-tack.

However, you could drop the disc into the door (and that'd be a real *bum* if you'd already been in the door to fish out the screw!) and you'll make it a big job to reverse your work, if you wanted to (eg. to sell the car). The metal dis is a must though !

6 - Hold open the door handle and push the new cap into place. It should fit perfectly. Tighten up the gold screw and pop the plastic cap back on. Et voila!

7 - Repeat the steps for the other door(s), if necessary.

Entire process should take less than 10 minutes, unless you drop the screw or disc into the door!
Wink [;)]


ukguy: how-to above.

Part numbers you need :-

1) Housing : 3B4839167
2) Cap (ready for spraying) : 3B4839879AGRU
3) Metal disc : METALDISC <---- there is no part number, just say you want the metal disc !

Good luck ! [:)]
edit to point 6 : MAKE SURE you have the HANDLE PULLED OUT WHEN RE-TIGHETENING THE TORX SCREW!
 

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Right here's one I learnt a long time ago - if you de-lock your car, while doing it, install a little wiring loop that lets you open the central locking if the car battery dies. All you need is to make a direct connection to the battery terminals somewhere you can access the end of the wires, somewhere like under the front bumper. Then, if your car battery dies, you can connect another car battery (or another car if you don't have a car battery in your pocket!!) to the two wires and "jump" enough power to let you get the doors open. I done this because I totally smoothed the car doors, and hatch.

Remote battery dies - go to a jewellers and get a new batetry for feck all money.
 
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