[Foxy]

OK, so i've figured my next car must have a DSG transmission.

That means it has to be VAG.......yay!

I've been in my partner's TT 3.2 with DSG but not any other car.

I understand the Golf 5 aint getting it (for the foreseable future anyways - in the UK), so that's kicked that into touch!

(and after pricing a new GTi up at around ?27k, they can fook off, anyways!)

So, it leaves me with my original thought of an Audi.

The A3 sportback is appealing, and the price looks darn reasonable in light of the exhorbitant Golf Gti figures.

So, has anyone out there got the DSG on their Audi?

If you've got it on a TDi 140, i'm all-ears about how they've programmed it - does it work well with the TDi's power/torque characteristics?

I'm lining up an A3 3-door TDi DSG test drive as soon as the plebs find one.......and as soon as the sportback demonstrator's are in, i'm trying the 2.0 FSiT (in whatever format) and the 140 TDi DSG too.

Really would like to hear of folk's experiences with DSG.......ta!

 

[S1R SS]

Im sure I was reading somewhere that the Audi diesel range is having something done to their gearboxes in Oct this year. When I originally read it I thought they were getting DSG, but they already have it, so Im confused now!!

Anyone??

 

[NikB]

Foxy why exactly do you want dsg? Don't see the point in it myself just adds weight. Also it's only rated to 250lb/ft so a complete waste of time on the TDi if you consider remapping it.

 

[Foxy]

Nik.......the question isn't "why have DSG", it is surely: "why have manual gearbox"?

 

[NikB]

Cos I like the act of changing gears.

 

[Benn130TDI]

Errrr....sorry for sounding fick, but whats DSG? [:I]

An auto gear box or something?

 

[j11ajs]

a lot of audi tt owners are having problems with there dsg boxes and a lot just do not like them after getting them

 

[Foxy]

DSG is an automatic box with one main radical new feature.....

It has twin clutches that respectively control even and odd gear numbers.

Additionally it is electrinically controlled to allow tiptronic style 'up' or 'down' gear changes from the stick, or even F1-style 'paddle' controls in addition.

Transmission is never lost, so effecively the 0-60 times are as good for anyone in the DSG as they are for the best driver in the equivalent manual gearbox'ed car.

 

[weeloon]

Foxy do you know what 'Launch mode' is [?]

Its the ultimate fun for a preson driving DSG box

If you dont know and want too, just ask []

 

[Touran]

I've got one coming mid sept in my new Touran. This is what it's all about http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/printer_797.shtml

 

[Foxy]

weeloon - the partner's TT has launch control - he's bored my t*ts off with it already m8!!! LOL

touran - I understand the....erm....touran has no 'paddle' feature - is that true?

 

[Foxy]

hmmmmmmmm......I didn't think the Golf V was gonna get DGS in the UK.....

Maybe this is US / Continental Europe-Only.......typical. UK get short-changed as usual.

 

[marriedblonde]

Quote: posted by NikB on 21/08/2004 19:14:08

Cos I like the act of changing gears.

Nik,

I feel the same way as you do, if you want to drive then you HAVE to change gears manually but I drove my mates TT 3.2 and all of a sudden it all became clear. It is fantastic, the dogs doo daa's just go and try one and you;ll see what all the fuss is about. I always swore I would never have an auto but the DSG box has changed my mind, just wished they did the R in with it in the UK

J.

 

[NikB]

All well and good in petrol but unless they can get it to handle loads more torque it's a waste of time on TDi's.

 

[Foxy]

Good point nik.

258lb.ft seems to be the limit.

Need to get my sums done and check the plans once again!

 

[Turbo Batch]

On the new gti website you can only hav DSG with a 5dr golf, why?

 

[Tom R32]

I think a lot of people (Clarkson) say "I like manual gearboxes, because its proper driving" are missing out - really.

Having driven the SMGII box in the E46 M3, and been in a DSG car (passenger) I can say with some confidence that these gearboxes are the business, once you get your head around SMG you can do as much with it as you can a manual - and it has the added benifits of full auto mode and 6 other different modes!

The DSG is a very clever bit of kit indeed - might take some time to get teething issues out of the way, the SMG1 box on the E36 M3 was very problematic, but now they have got it right and boy is it good. Change straight up without having to clutch - yes please!

I love a manual gearbox, but a good semi-auto these days would be my choice, had the UK R32 had the DSG I would have taken it NO QUESTION!

Sequential / DSG is the way forward IMHO, dont see BTCC / WRC using manuals these days - for good reason.

 

[NikB]

I'd love a sequential box but it's finding a clutch that can handle the torque that's the problem.

 

[Foxy]

Nik - if you can prize yourself away from the 'must have a diesel' trane of thought (not easy - i've tried!!), the FSiT engines may give almost the best of both worlds......

 

[Richard W]

I'd quite happily have an auto box if it didn't have a torque convertor....

- I think that's where people don't understand the DSG/SMG thing. They see an auto as having a torque convertor and because of the mfrs who've put paddles/buttons on their autos they think all sequential gearboxes are the same. I agree with you Tom, it's the whole automatic s election thing with the instant response that an ordinary clutch gives you.