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I'm going to see a Bora Sport 150PD tomorrow. It's a high miler with 100k on the clock, with it being a 1 owner 03 plate I thought it wise to check if there are any specific things I'll need to look out for?

I know the usual things to check and I'll probably take VAG COM with me to check for faults but as I'm not familiar with the 150PD engine some pointers wouldn't got a miss [:)]

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  • MAF meter
  • Rear beam bushes
  • Window regulators
  • front wishbone bushes
  • belt service should have been done @ 60k
  • duff shockers
  • serious front tyre wear!

Prob telling granny to suck eggs - but my 2p!
 

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If I were looking at a 150pd, I'd have a really good listen for any top end rattling / tapping etc which could indicate cam lobe and or unit injector wear. Also check for oil changes in the history.

Seem to recall reading more than once that the 150pd seems to have a habit of eating cams, certainly more so than the 115 and 130.

A thumbs up for me would be if the car was on a normal rather than long life regime in view of the cam eating problem. If it's not been serviced by VW, make sure the owner is aware and / or ask if the car has been using the correct PD spec oil, the correct PD spec oil is vital.

Also check to see if there is a T at the end Bora as that would spell, Borat, which would be nice.
 

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Rear beam bushes will defo need changing now (or soon) at 100k. You will feel extra float and 'banging' from the back of the car over potholes.

It transformed my Golf when I had all the bushes done together with new eibach shocks and springs.

I would also check to see if the clutch and duel mass flywheel (?700 at specialist ?1200 main dealer) have been changed. Doubtless, you'll Revo it. This will finish an already tired clutch.

Don't want to put you off.

Also look for stonechips, glass damage etc
 

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Don't forget to check the AC fans! Knocked ?400 of mine cos they were knackered. Then fixed them myself for ?20! It will be due a cam belt at 120K too, unless it's already been done twice.
 

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What spec is it mate leather, xenons??

I haven't really had any probs with mine other than intercooler hoses / clips it just all the mods i have put on mine go wrong!

one thing to watch out for is when reversing remember you have a big bum[:p]
 

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Also listen out for a noisy alternator belt tensioner, i've had to replace mine twice. First at 52k and then last week at 64k, second one was changed on warranty.
 

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Sem - would the belt tensioner be noisy at idle?
Yep, you can hear the noise more at idle.

When you have a look under the bonnet check if the tensioner is vibrating - you will be able to hear a nasty whirring noise coming from it. It will sound worse if you put the steering on full lock too so definitely check that out.

I'd say this is another common MK4 problem, its cropped up numerous times on here if you do a search!
 

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Cheers mate - added to the list of things to check!

To sumarise I'll be checking for the following (specific PD150 checks):

Check service regime - Long life or fixed?
Oil used - Should be 'Vital'
Rear beam bushes - floatiness or knocking from rear over potholes / uneven surfaces
Has the clutch been changed? If no do 5th gear test from 50mph and check for slippage
Cooling fans - Check for low speed pulsing on main fan.
Intercooler hose - check for blowing
Noisy belt tensioner - check to see if tensioner is vibrating (more noticable under load when power steering is on full lock)
Check with VAG COM.
 

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Don't forget to listen for the top end chatter / tapping / cam noise which would probably be the most expensive to fix.

Also not mentioned, boot it from about 50mph in 6th, preferably on a hill to see if it'll go into limp mode, which could indicate a sticky vnt mechanism on the turbo, unlikely though.
 

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OK, just been to see the car. Didn't get a chance to put any of the suggestions into action, though!

Pulled up at the blokes house (Trading from home) and it was raining, so I'd already decided I would need a second viewing in the dry before even considering buying the car. But I thought I may as well check all the usual bits while there. Bloke greets me and opens the car door, I immediately ask to see in the boot, which, to my surpise contained no carpet and the data sticker has been scratched off (remnants of it still there). In place of the data sticker was a crude printed VIN number stuck on the inside of the wheel well. O...K....

Asked to see under the bonnet, all looked ok. It has been detailed so everything looked clean blah blah. The VIN sticker was present in the engine compartment but didn't look correct to me - looked to be smaller, it only had three lines of info? Dunno if its me being blonde but it didn't look correct. Didn't cross check the number with the one in the boot or drivers well either.

Anywho, as I'm looking over the engine (noted the fans hadn't been changed) he starts asking me questions, like do I have funds in place, where do I work etc. Small talk come later, right now I'm checking things so made sure he gets the hint. Checking all door shuts for sings of spray work got him a bit agitated, too [^o)]

When I told him I would need to come back and see the car in the dry, he immediately hit me with the old line that someone else was interested in the car and he would rather give them a chance. They were prepared to come up from Wrexham to buy it, so he didn't want to dedicate the time to me e.g. No test drive unless I was committing to buy.

Suffice to say nail in the head for me, so we parted company. I was there for a total of five mins.

Might wait until January now, and explore the Auction route.
 

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Yep sounds a bit dodgy to me as well lol.

If your not 100% happy about something tis best to walk away, as going on what you said i would have walked as well [Y]
 

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Dont blame u mate, me and a friend went to look for a replacement for his dead 90TDI bora (Octavia tried to overtake him when he was turning...... ouch.... bent subframe, damper in two halves, destroyed inner wing, wishbone, driveshaft pretty much boned...)

Saw a 90TDI golf on a R plate, ?2700, looked alright, when we got there, seller didn;t own it, was his cousins or something [^o)] car drove fine but was noted that engine was wrong (it was the mk3 variant of the lump he says, says hes never seen that lump in a mk4 before n he's worked for veedub just about all of the mk4's lifespan) car was too clean, had 90k on it, not a scratch anywhere, box had loads and loads of free play in gear, again he says thats nigh on impossible with the later box, seems it had the sdi style box in it.... just didn't feel 'right' so we walked away, he again said loads of interest in it, wouldn;t move on price cause he's lowered it in the ad etc, was more interested in my car, he said he was buying a 150 bora..... felt uncomfortable with his questions at that point so we left....

Don't give up the hunt mate, plenty around....

How about this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-02-Volkswagen-Bora-1-9-TDi-130-Spo-Metallic-Blue_W0QQitemZ230048831396QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

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Hi Tia - Make sure that you check out the cooling fans like I didnt!!

Not necessarily a reason for not buying but just read some of the threads about this first. I did the mods with the aftermarket resistors etc, and it works just great..was just a faff to do thats all.

Cambelt done every 40/60k miles?

Mines got rattly anti-roll bar rubbers and its only done 41,000 m !

odd front tyre wear?

Oops - think you may have already looked at the car by now..oh well, in case you hadnt...
 

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Well the bloke has been on again and tells me that the buyer from Wrexham didn't purchase the car, so its back up for sale again. He has offered to let me view it again on Wednesday, although there is someone else coming next weekend to view it.

Might go up again and at least get a drive in it and hone my detective skills a little more! Btw here's a link to the car.

Matt - Cheers for the link. Little too over my budget as I'm only looking to pay 5k max!
 
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