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Guys, the below is my attempt at dealing with my mark 4, copied and pasted from another forum so ignore the references to individuals. Enjoy!

Ok, after having purchased a golf four months back, iv been in the process of making a few modifications to the car, the purchase of some wheels, new lights etc. However, the biggest stumbling block that was really letting the car down, was the paint work. The car is actually metallic black, but the previous owner must have either washed the car daily at a petrol station car wash, or decided it was a good idea to clean their car with wire wool!! <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="[email protected]@[email protected]@[email protected]@[email protected]@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"></v:path><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape id=_x0000_i1025 style="WIDTH: 21.75pt; HEIGHT: 21pt" type="#_x0000_t75" alt=""><v:imagedata mce_href="http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/images/smilies/shocked.gif" mce_src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\pavan\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.gif" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\pavan\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.gif" o:href="http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/images/smilies/shocked.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape>

The paint was in such bad condition, that my mates used to tell me the car was in fact grey, and the car had either had a really bad respray or was a one off, limited addition colour golf!:<o:p></o:p>

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The products i used were:

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Washing:

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2 bucket method using poorboys slicks and suds

applied via a meguiars wash mit for above the rubbing strips

Halfords sheepskin washmit for below the rubbing strips and wheels.

Der wonder drying towels to dry the car. (amazing product!)

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For the paint correction:

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Car was clayed with Megs medium clay, lubricated with megs quick detailer

Blackfire SRC Compound applied via yellow SFX pad.

Blackfire Finishing Polish via white SFX pad.

Clear Kote Vanilla Moose hand glaze applied via Blue SFX pad.

P21s carnuba wax applied by hand via a meguiars applicator pad.

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Wheels:

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Poorboys wheel sealant, 2 layers, followed by a third layer after 24 hours.

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Glass:

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megs nano tech glass cleaner on the glass.

vanilla moose hand glaze on the windows and rubber.

meguiars endurance gel on the trim and tyres.

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Interior:

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As part of the modifications i changed my seats from the standard golf ones to the Recaro sports seats, which i cleaned thoroughly with a wet and dry vac before fitting.

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Interior was cleaned with various products, mainly autogylm and meguiars.

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Throughout the process, i used pakshak and meguairs microfibres.

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So, before i set about the paint correction, here are some pics of how bad the car was before i began, and the job i had set out before me! The car had not been washed at this point for a week, but a heavy rain fall and being parked in the driveway with building work going on next door meant the dirt had really built up:

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With the amount of empty yogurt pots, sticky sweets, and crisp wrappers i found under the seats and in the footwells when i first bought the car, i am certain this car was regularly used for the school run by a mum of at least 8! :doublesho

The car had some serious scratches, some deeper than others. I knew i wouldnt be able to get rid of the deepest scratches as they had gone through the paint, but i could do my best at masking them:

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Scratches on the front wing of the car:

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To add to my problems, a flock full of birds must have decided to take a rest stop on the telephone lines going over my house, and relieve themselves on my car! :evil:

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The below picture is of something that most have happened in a car park, someone brushing past the car with a trolley, as it wasnt there when i brought the car!:

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Below is a picture of a dent in the front wing, it was there before i brought the car, obviously no amount of buffing would remove the dent, but there were scuffs of paint left on the wing that were not coming off via a normal wash:

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How about these badboys for some swirl marks!!!!:

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At this point, i decided to wash the car, to get rid of all the surface dirt, and see how bad the swirls and paint really were. I used the two bucket method, using poorboys slicks and suds, found the shampoo great to use, really well lubricated, and easy to use. dryed with der wonder towels, and i must say i was more than impressed with how much water they retained.

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Here are the pics AFTER the car has been washed, :doublesho :

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scratches on the front:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/pavanpujji/detailing%2016th%20Sept/DSC07003.jpg

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The bonnet, complete with swirls, hazing and stonechips:

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swirling under the halogen lights, courtesy of my local LIDL store:

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The swirling was so bad under the halogens, non of the metallic flake was coming through the paint:

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At this point, it was getting fairly late in the day, and not wanting to jump in head first at some thing i was unfamiliar with, i decided to just tackle the bonnet of the car for the first day, doing one half first and comparing it with the other. So having masked up the lights, and splitting the bonnet, i proceded to apply blackfire SRC compound via the yellow sfx sonus pad. i applied the compound to the pad, spread lightly, spread further on speed 3, then worked in on speed 5 with a few slow passes, and then finished of with a pass at speed 6. in places, i did have to go over the bonnet twice to get rid of the swirls, but i am very happy with the results of these products. they are somewhat greasy to buff off, and did clog up my microfibres, but their cutting power and finish were excellent. i then moved to the finishing polish, and then a coat of vanilla moose hand glaze and a coat of p21s carnuba. Here are the results:

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half and halfs:

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Swirl free, happy days!:

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give that poor metallic flake have its time in the spotlight!:

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since reading on this forum, iv been fascinated by this beading business, so decided to give the bonnet some artifical rain, with some interesting effects!:

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I have to admit, i was absolutely chuffed with the results of the products and the pc, and having over come my initial nerves, i was dying to finish off the whole of the car. due to work and family commitments, i had to wait a while till i could get started, so in the ended decided to call in sick at work! (judging from the state of my bosses car, i can safely assume he is not a member on the forum! :p

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I dont have any pics of doing one side of the car due to the battery dying, but i then began work on the roof of the car.

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First, i clayed with megs qd and the medium clay. the clay was extremely dirty, but i dropped it after my first pass, so had to get a fresh piece for a second pass. heres the clay after a less than 1ft sq portion, 2nd pass:

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reflection of my house on the car roof:

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courtesy of the girlfriend, who refused to let her hair get wet and opened the umbrella too quickly after getting out of the car, the metal rods of the umbrella catching the paintwork:

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lots of swirls:

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badly swirled and faded paintwork:

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more scratches:

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The pc work in progress:

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results after just the compound:

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No more swirls:

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http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/pavanpujji/detailing%207th%20Oct/DSC07259.jpg

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i took loads of pics, simply because i was so chuffed with the results, here are a few of some of the best ones:

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This detailing malarky really takes it out of you! had to take a quick break for some nourishment!

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The neighbours thought i had gone mad, climbing on step ladders to get to the roof, putting blue tape all over my car!

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Having read a post by dave on the forum a little while ago about apply vanilla clearkote moose to the glass, i decided to give it a try. The results were excellent, a really clean and glossy finish to the glass, and when driving in the rain, the beading on the glass is spectacular. This really is an amazing product!

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Having purchased a set of Audi A8 replica wheels recently, i decided to apply 3 coats of poor boys wheel sealant to them before putting them on, seeing that winter was only around the corner. Having done so, i then put the wheels on the car, and dressed the tyres with megs endurance gel. i also applied the gel to the trim and door handles etc:

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Having been so disappointed with the finish on the paint, and being extremely jealous of the shine of almost every black mk4 golf that drove past me, i really am please with the results.

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wet shine on the front end:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/pavanpujji/detailing%207th%20Oct/DSC07359.jpg

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I know, i forgot to use the gel on my rear valance, but this is in the process of being replaced. :eek:

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http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/pavanpujji/detailing%207th%20Oct/DSC07357.jpg

BEFORE:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/pavanpujji/detailing%207th%20Oct/DSC07228.jpg

AFTER:

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Product reviews:<o:p></o:p>

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Ok, so the only way i would have ever been able to get my car looking the way iv wanted it to is with the unlimited and relentless willingness of forum members to provide their expertise and advice, so bearing in mind im a newbie, and cannot really compare the products i have used to any others (as these are the first ones i have tried), i have given a little description below on what i think of the products used, maybe they will help some new up and coming detailers in the future:

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Poor boys slicks and suds<o:p></o:p>

Very good product, smells nice, comes in a fairly large bottle. Once diluted, the solution is very slick as the name suggests, it lubricates the wash mit over the paintwork very well, helping to prevent futher scratching. I did find that plenty of water must be used to prevent a slight film being formed, and it may well be best to use a pressure washer to ensure all the residue is removed.

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What a product. They absorb water like nothing I have ever seen and make leather chamois look lame in comparison. They are soft to the touch, protective to the paintwork, and are a great in help in drying the car quickly, exactly what I needed to prevent the car drying with waterspots.

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To be honest, the only reason i chose to use these products is due to the cerami coat menzerna polishes being sold out across the board, and advice that the blackfire twins are virtualy the same product with extra lubricant.

When using the compound, i found it very effective in removing deeper swirls, and relatively easy to work in, however, it did prove to be fairly greasy to buff off. Despite working in the polish for a fairly long amount of time, and not using excessive amounts of product, i was left with a greasy residue which had to be removed via micro fibre, with a bit of QD to completely remove it.

The finishing polish was easy to work with, and left a finish that was highly noticeable from just using the compound.

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What a product. I cannot recommend this highly enough. I used this on the car itself, the glass, and I most impressed on how well it removed polish residue, grease and other substances from the glass surrounding the window, the trim and other rubber or plastic surfaces. I had heard very good review about this product, but I did not expect it to work as well as it did, I was impressed to say the least.

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P21?s. <o:p></o:p>

Left a beautiful warm and glowing finish, and the beading was excellent. Very easy to apply, just like the hand glaze, and very easy to buff off. Durability wise, I only applied one coat, which has since worn away, but considering this was during a 1000 mile trek to <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>paris</st1:place></st1:City> and back, it is by no means poor. Collnite is ready and waiting to be applied this weekend, will post up more results as and when it is applied.

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Megs endurance gel.<o:p></o:p>

Left an excellent finish, and lasted even longer. Again, I have never used any other products, so I would say that!

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Poorboys wheel sealant.<o:p></o:p>

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Having since washed my wheels twice, the sealant makes the wheels very slick. All that is required to remove brake disc shavings and other dirt is a wet cloth. Very impressed with both the durability and how slick this product makes the wheels. It also leaves a very nice shine.

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Hope you have enjoyed the read, all your comments and advice welcome and much appreciated, and thanks again to all of you for all your advice, and especially to Dave for all the brilliant guides in the detailing guides section!

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That is stunning stuff!!!!! Making me think about buying one of those bad boys! How much do they cost? [;)]

I have quite bad swirling on mine, doesnt look nice when the car is clean! [cry]

Is that the first time you have used one?
 

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Wicked.

Cant beleive its the same car!

Your proof that hard work pays off big time when it comes to detailing.
 

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Blimey, thats one hell of a deeeeep wet shine

I best get my act together, it election time soon & dont want to loose my title of Mayor [;)]
 

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thanks for the comment guys. I got all the products from 3 retailers mainly, cleanyourcar, polishedbliss and cleanandshiny. very helpful guys, and very quick delivery. have a look over on detailingworld.co.uk for more in depth info on the products and the Porter cable, but beware, once you start reading, your hooked!!
 

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Nice one mate [Y]

really good deep shine you`ve got there, very impressive results [H]

makes me wanna get mine sorted now!
 

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looks really nice mate i need to do a bit of this stuff to mine but i have no time :( my girlfriend did the same with the umbrella but it was my dads car i was driving at the time and he went nuts
 

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I have a similar bodywork to yours, and I was wondering how much it cost for all those product, and how much time did you put into it?
 

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Looks mint and as others have said i seen the post over on detailing world.. and it does look like a completely different car..

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Pav,

Do you know if the wheel sealent protects against corrosion, ie with diamond cut wheels? Noticed you have A8s which might go the same way eventually.
 

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thanks for the positive comments guys. The products including the polisher probably came to about ?250 all in, a fair bit, but well worth the money seeing as it helps no only to keep the car in pristine condition, but can be used around the house too!

in terms of the wheels wax, yes, it provides protection against the elements, especially in winter, inc salt on the roads, grit, brake dust etc. especially important with diamond cut wheels, inc the A8s, as apparently the laquer does not stick to polished surfaces very well, so the more protection you add, the better!
 

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so er how much are these pc's??? my car has swirls but its going soon but for next car i shall be ploughing my time into it and shall be wanting to mod and restore the paint work. are the compounds etc expensive?
 
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