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No, its NOT a GTI.....GT'I' is a reference to a PETROL INJECTION engine!
To badge it as a GTI would just say you are a GTI wannabie, dont do it.....dont be ashamed to admit its a diesel, and a quick one at that.
Dealers sometimes badge these cars as GTI's in an effort to sell more and fool the customer into thinking they are a full diesel GTI. At the best it would be a GT TDI, but not a GTI!!! ITS PETROL!
Its not a GTI, and it would be as incorrect as me badging my 1.8T a TDI.
It should be a fully red 'TDI', or if you were insistant on it being a GT spec, then badge it "GT TDI".
To badge it as a GTI would just say you are a GTI wannabie, dont do it.....dont be ashamed to admit its a diesel, and a quick one at that.
Dealers sometimes badge these cars as GTI's in an effort to sell more and fool the customer into thinking they are a full diesel GTI. At the best it would be a GT TDI, but not a GTI!!! ITS PETROL!
Its not a GTI, and it would be as incorrect as me badging my 1.8T a TDI.
It should be a fully red 'TDI', or if you were insistant on it being a GT spec, then badge it "GT TDI".
Quote: posted by EstorilBlue on 24/11/2004 11:22:28
No, its NOT a GTI.....GT'I' is a reference to a PETROL INJECTION engine!
To badge it as a GTI would just say you are a GTI wannabie, dont do it.....dont be ashamed to admit its a diesel, and a quick one at that.
Dealers sometimes badge these cars as GTI's in an effort to sell more and fool the customer into thinking they are a full diesel GTI. At the best it would be a GT TDI, but not a GTI!!! ITS PETROL!
Its not a GTI, and it would be as incorrect as me badging my 1.8T a TDI.
It should be a fully red 'TDI', or if you were insistant on it being a GT spec, then badge it "GT TDI".
150pd can come badged as
GTI
TDI
GTI , neither is incorrect badging
1.8T can come badged as GTI too, comments about gti wannabe are totally unfounded, the diesel is the quicker car.
No, its NOT a GTI.....GT'I' is a reference to a PETROL INJECTION engine!
To badge it as a GTI would just say you are a GTI wannabie, dont do it.....dont be ashamed to admit its a diesel, and a quick one at that.
Dealers sometimes badge these cars as GTI's in an effort to sell more and fool the customer into thinking they are a full diesel GTI. At the best it would be a GT TDI, but not a GTI!!! ITS PETROL!
Its not a GTI, and it would be as incorrect as me badging my 1.8T a TDI.
It should be a fully red 'TDI', or if you were insistant on it being a GT spec, then badge it "GT TDI".
150pd can come badged as
GTI
TDI
GTI , neither is incorrect badging
1.8T can come badged as GTI too, comments about gti wannabe are totally unfounded, the diesel is the quicker car.
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My 1.8T is a GTI. You cannot buy a 1.8T that isnt a GTI, regardless of what the rear badge says, they are all GTI's.
Just face the facts: The Original GTI reffered to a PETROL INJECTION engine. VW have NEVER released a diesel GTI. Im not questioning that it has a GT spec, but it doesnt have a petrol engine, therefore cannot be badged a GTI. If anything the best it could be is a GT TDI, which I think suits the model perfectly.
If anything its VW's fault for making the badging so variable, but if you really think about what I am saying, and what the GTI name stood for when it was first made, then you know that you can never truly have a Diesel GTI. FACT.
As for the GTI "wannabe" comments, if the DIESEL GTI doesnt exsist, badging it as a GTI is making it something its not. Hence Wannabe.
Just face the facts: The Original GTI reffered to a PETROL INJECTION engine. VW have NEVER released a diesel GTI. Im not questioning that it has a GT spec, but it doesnt have a petrol engine, therefore cannot be badged a GTI. If anything the best it could be is a GT TDI, which I think suits the model perfectly.
If anything its VW's fault for making the badging so variable, but if you really think about what I am saying, and what the GTI name stood for when it was first made, then you know that you can never truly have a Diesel GTI. FACT.
As for the GTI "wannabe" comments, if the DIESEL GTI doesnt exsist, badging it as a GTI is making it something its not. Hence Wannabe.
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Just got off the phone with VW's Uk marketing department, claiming to be doing a University essay (always works),and asked them the question:
"Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
"Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
The brochure states the model as being 'GTI' with a 2.0petrol and
1.9 diesel 130pd, and also the '150 GTI' being 1.8t and 1.9 diesel 150pd.
150pds were badged TDI all red on the continent and uk dealers
were supposed to change it to GTI red I. some dont bother that is
why you see different badges.
Its the same with the 2.0 or GTI (silver I) badges you see
on the 2.0 petrol model. 2.0 on continent and GTI in the uk.
1.9 diesel 130pd, and also the '150 GTI' being 1.8t and 1.9 diesel 150pd.
150pds were badged TDI all red on the continent and uk dealers
were supposed to change it to GTI red I. some dont bother that is
why you see different badges.
Its the same with the 2.0 or GTI (silver I) badges you see
on the 2.0 petrol model. 2.0 on continent and GTI in the uk.
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Lol fair play SPG, well done for finding something. The brochure I have in front of me doesnt list any Diesel GTIs.
Quote: posted by EstorilBlue on 24/11/2004 12:03:28
Just got off the phone with VW's Uk marketing department, claiming to be doing a University essay (always works),and asked them the question:
"
Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
Do you believe everything that your VW dealer tells you too ? People
that work in vw customer services are muppets that know nothing about
cars.
I wouldn't get too hung up the 'GTI' dream, the 1.8T is a slug
in standard guise and is barely deserving of GTI badge anyway
Just got off the phone with VW's Uk marketing department, claiming to be doing a University essay (always works),and asked them the question:
"
Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
Do you believe everything that your VW dealer tells you too ? People
that work in vw customer services are muppets that know nothing about
cars.
I wouldn't get too hung up the 'GTI' dream, the 1.8T is a slug
in standard guise and is barely deserving of GTI badge anyway
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Quote: posted by spencert on 24/11/2004 12:18:09
Quote: posted by EstorilBlue on 24/11/2004 12:03:28
Just got off the phone with VW's Uk marketing department, claiming to be doing a University essay (always works),and asked them the question:
"
Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
I wouldn't get too hung up the 'GTI' dream, the 1.8T is a slug
in standard guise and is barely deserving of GTI badge anyway
HARSH!
It was quick for its day back in 2000. It will out run most standard things on the road.
Quote: posted by EstorilBlue on 24/11/2004 12:03:28
Just got off the phone with VW's Uk marketing department, claiming to be doing a University essay (always works),and asked them the question:
"
Have VW ever released a Diesel GTI?"
"No, its a petrol engine only".
Fact.
For Ref: I spoke to Martin Houser.
I wouldn't get too hung up the 'GTI' dream, the 1.8T is a slug
in standard guise and is barely deserving of GTI badge anyway
HARSH!
It was quick for its day back in 2000. It will out run most standard things on the road.
Lets sort this one out! REF: EVO Mag issue 48/49 or something where they were reviewing the 150 GTTDi PD. I remember reading that VW decided to rebadge this as GTi because it was indeed every bit a GTi albeit it is diesel. Its still as quick and has identical spec, has more torque etc and also they made 2 versions of the GTi Anniversary remember - the petrol and diesel verisons and they were both badged GTi.........
Mine came badged GTi (Red I) with no Golf badge to the back left! I've put one of those american spec 20th anniversary GTI badges on with the rabbit coz I figured it looked different! Also fited an anniversary roof spoiler coz it looks much better than the standard votex spoiler that VW charge a fortune to fit and spray! Where abouts you from in Norn Iron dood? Probably passed you in my travels as well as many others on here! Make it a policy to flash next time you see a fellow member!
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