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Basically the drivers side rear quater (5 Door) has been replaced at one time or another on my car, off the insurance obviously by some backstreet garage.

Its started to corrode around the arch lip where its double skinned, obviously waters got in and rusted it.

Has anyone ever had one of these done? Im thinking of getting VW to do it as I will get some kind of corrosion warranty.
 

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Bump on this as I'm interested too!

I'm in a similar situation in that i bought my golf as an approved VW back in 2002 when it was 2y.o. Since then i have discovered it has had a new drivers side quarter, and it is rusting all round the lip of the arch as the paint wasn't applied properly.

VW don't want to know under their corrosion/paint warranty (as its not 'internal rusting') - and, i can't prove they knew about it when they sold the car (although i suspect they did half a job on it, and didn't put it through the books, as the insurance database is clean). I've tried contacting the previous owner but he has moved, with no forwarding details.

I've taken it to a couple of approved bodyshops round here - the price on mine is increased because it is satin silver and apparantly a nightmare to match. I was quoted ?1600 to have a new quarter, and a respray on the boot, bumper, rear drivers door (due to the colour). Needless to say, i've left it for the moment until i can find a proper craftsman who can cut out the rust, weld in a patch, and do a proper paint match without respraying half the car!!!
 

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Dave J - I wanted it done at VW due to the warrenty but I dont know if I would pay that much, actually I wouldn't, lol.

You really need to find a classic car resto type place that will undertake the cutting out of the bad metal as opposed to replacing the whole quater, mine wasn't sealed behind which is just bloody stupid, its still in the black primer repair sections come in.

Do you have the previous owners details, if so PM me his address and I will see if I can get his new one for you, at least then you can prove VW are lying.

ive replaced wheel arches myself before but on much thicker metal, I dont think I have the skill to be able to weld such thin steel, it needs to be cooled as you weld to stop distortion, which is probably why most places opt to replace the entire quater instead of doing a repair.
 

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Thanks Cyrix - I think there's a couple of places in my local area that have good write -ups for restoration work. Failing that, i may try Payne's bodyshop in Iver as I am sure they could produce a good paint match!

I think i am fortunate in that the arch on mine is well sealed and has been painted behind, its just the lip of the arch that wasn't completely painted and lacquered (primer was showing though), which is now rusting.

Do you think there is any comeback on the garage which repaired your car? I'm not saying you would necessary want it repaired by them again, but I thought that if the work was done by an insurance approved bodyshop, etc there are various warranties/guarantees they have to give?

This is the problem I have - I don't know who repaired mine, so i can't pursue them for faulty workmanship!
 

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I'm in the same position, dont know who did mine, i suspect VW did on the sly however as the previous company who had it have no knowledge.

Thats not to say the employee didnt bump it and have it done on the sly.
 

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Thanks Cyrix - I think there's a couple of places in my local area that have good write -ups for restoration work. Failing that, i may try Payne's bodyshop in Iver as I am sure they could produce a good paint match!

I think i am fortunate in that the arch on mine is well sealed and has been painted behind, its just the lip of the arch that wasn't completely painted and lacquered (primer was showing though), which is now rusting.

Do you think there is any comeback on the garage which repaired your car? I'm not saying you would necessary want it repaired by them again, but I thought that if the work was done by an insurance approved bodyshop, etc there are various warranties/guarantees they have to give?

This is the problem I have - I don't know who repaired mine, so i can't pursue them for faulty workmanship!
Dave,

There is a place on the Maidenhead to Windsor Road (Holyport way), used to be a Mazda dealer I think but now a bodyshop and kind opposite the old Fiat dealer (which is a pile of rubble).

Do you know where I mean, hope you do ?

Anyway, they are a VW approved bodyshop that VW send there cars for repair to. I had mine repaired there when I was rear ended and they offer a 5yr gaurantee on repairs.

Might be worth popping in for a quote.
 

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Bump on this as I'm interested too!

I'm in a similar situation in that i bought my golf as an approved VW back in 2002 when it was 2y.o. Since then i have discovered it has had a new drivers side quarter, and it is rusting all round the lip of the arch as the paint wasn't applied properly.

VW don't want to know under their corrosion/paint warranty (as its not 'internal rusting') - and, i can't prove they knew about it when they sold the car (although i suspect they did half a job on it, and didn't put it through the books, as the insurance database is clean). I've tried contacting the previous owner but he has moved, with no forwarding details.

I've taken it to a couple of approved bodyshops round here - the price on mine is increased because it is satin silver and apparantly a nightmare to match. I was quoted ?1600 to have a new quarter, and a respray on the boot, bumper, rear drivers door (due to the colour). Needless to say, i've left it for the moment until i can find a proper craftsman who can cut out the rust, weld in a patch, and do a proper paint match without respraying half the car!!!
I was in the same situation as you except VW weren't interested because it wasn't an original panel. VW dealer network had no record of the repair and the previous recorded owner wasn't contactable. I only had a paint chip and some very light surface rust, got a friend to sort it for me. VW dealer did offer to repair it and respray the panel, driver's door and tailgate to make sure it all matched and lightening my wallet to the tune of around 1400quid

I'd speak to Greg (phat4 on here I think), he's got a Satin Silver Golf that's heavily modified, done the spraying on it himself (he does it for a living so why not) and many who have seen his car would recommend him. Not sure if he'll be the cheapest but met him at a couple of the mega-meets, always friendly and great to chat to. I'm sure even if he doesn't do the work, he'd steer you in the right direction as far as good advice goes, just seems that sort of bloke on the couple of times I've met him.
 

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Thanks c.tp - I think I know where you mean so I'll do some investigation! Previously I've tried Parkford coachworks in Taplow (who incidently repair Windrush VW's cars) and I've heard talked about before on the forum - they weren't interested due to the colour and because of the rust. I've also tried Bodytechnics in Slough, who again have a good write up on here (Porsche, VW/Audi & Saab specialist repairers), but the verbal quote was ?1800!

I've heard good things about Colin's cars in Taplow - sounds like a bit more of a restoration expert which is probably what I am looking for.

Thanks Mister E for the info. I had considered contacting Greg for a quote, as the number of times he has sprayed and worked on his Satin silver mk4 means he must a dab hand at matching the colour by now!

I'm keen to make sure that whoever does the work will guarantee a good finish (the rest of my car is pretty mint for a 2000!), and goes by their reputation, so I'll seriously think about giving him a call for a chat.
 

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Thanks c.tp - I think I know where you mean so I'll do some investigation! Previously I've tried Parkford coachworks in Taplow (who incidently repair Windrush VW's cars) and I've heard talked about before on the forum - they weren't interested due to the colour and because of the rust. I've also tried Bodytechnics in Slough, who again have a good write up on here (Porsche, VW/Audi & Saab specialist repairers), but the verbal quote was ?1800!

I've heard good things about Colin's cars in Taplow - sounds like a bit more of a restoration expert which is probably what I am looking for.

Thanks Mister E for the info. I had considered contacting Greg for a quote, as the number of times he has sprayed and worked on his Satin silver mk4 means he must a dab hand at matching the colour by now!

I'm keen to make sure that whoever does the work will guarantee a good finish (the rest of my car is pretty mint for a 2000!), and goes by their reputation, so I'll seriously think about giving him a call for a chat.
I've had a quote from 'Colin' , he's based a stones throw from Parkford, he is an old school craftesman which is good but he didn't have any ovens etc and was a bit pricy when I got a quote.

Also the main dealer type repairers are simply not interested in doing work for a private punter as the insurance company work is far to lucrative. Any quotes you get will be artificially high.

I bit the bullet and taught myself in the end and am now quite good at re-finishing / repairing my cars bodywork. Because I can.... I swap the front end of my car over every now and then with the spare one I have when the stonechips to bad to bear.
 

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Thanks ct.p - i've seen the previous threads where you've repainted the front of your car - must be rewarding! Now you've mastered reflex silver, think you could manage satin silver on mine, lol?!!  
 

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..............funny you should mention it !

We've just got rid of our Polo which was Satin Silver and have about 600ml of paint left over.

What is it you need painting ?
 

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Lol! That'll teach me to be joke about it! Well, aside from the arch I have a VW rear spoiler and R32 bumper which I bought (but not sure to fit that or the anni valance I also have). Both the spoiler and the bumper are already reflex silver so would need rubbing down first!

How far would 600ml go? If it'd do the spoiler I'd be more than happy!!
 

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You'd get the spoiler and the bumper sprayed from that.

Just read above the other thing is your rear arch. I wouldn't want to do that as it's a no removable part of the car !!

If a spoiler / bumper / bonnet goes wrong you can do it again, the main car = to much risk. If it was an old MK2 or 3 I'd have a go though !
 

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Apologies to Cyrix for hijacking his thread!!

Cheers ct.p - I wouldn't want to ask you to try the arch as it definitely needs more than rubbing down and filing - probably needs a bit of welding I think. If you'd be comfortable to give the spoiler or valance/bumper a try, I'd be more than happy to give you a few beer tokens for the paint/effort!

If there's another maidenhead/slough meet soonish, i guess we could discuss then...
 

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Dave,

I'll do it for free.... well except for beer whilst carrying out said work.

You'll just have to wait for some warmer weather. You can't spray without a heated workshop which I havn't got.
 

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Thanks Colin - that's really good of you to offer! Guess the warmer weather is a while away now, so hopefully there'll be a meet in between now and spring at which we can catch up at.

Cheers,

Dave
 

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Hello all,

A search of 'rear arch' brought up this thread...

My mate just hit his 5dr 1.6's passenger's side rear arch against a concrete pillar when turning left head first into a tight space inside a multistorey carpark. Almost the whole arch is deformed and of course the paint is damaged so it looks like he's going to need a new rear quarter. I was going to suggest to find one from a scrappie and get it resprayed and fitted but it was mentioned above the part isn't removable, so what are his options? Is it a job for the stealers? Any idea how much it might cost to fix would be very helpful. Thanks for any advice.
 

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hi,

ive got the same problem. local bodyshops in my area said about ?60 to get rid of the rust. they said they will rub the rust off, laquer and respray.

Ricky
 
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