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Hi there. Im in the middle of a big tuning project to get about 200bhp out of my 90bhp TDi.
To be honest I'm approaching my patience limit, everything that could go wrong is going wrong and even the "simple" 30min jobs are taking hours and hours. Im also worried that if I do stick it out and get it finished, 10 or 20,000 miles later its gonna go boom.

I dont do many miles anymore (work from home) so I was maybe thinking of switching to a 1.8T. (preferably AUM or AUQ with the k03s turbo to save meddling with the engine too much.)

My main problem is going to be insurance. Im 19 with effectively 0 NCB (was on my parents policy). I WILL be re-mapping the car pretty much straight away but I doubt Ill declare it to be honest. Anyone know any good companies for insuring a GTI as a young driver? Im expecting over 2 grand but the business will probably pay 1 grand towards it as a comapny car.

Do you recommend the switch or am I going to hate it? I know they are 2 completely different cars to drive.

Thanks in advance, Rik.
 

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I personlly wish i could swap to an 18T from my 115 denzel. I find petrol is more fun to drive and the easy mapping of an 18T will provide loads more laughs for the money!

You should definately test drive the petrol version before deciding.

Mart
 

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I owned up until 2 months ago 2 cars, a Bora PD115, my other car is a 1.8T 5 door golf, when ever i picked up a set of keys to go some where it always is the 1.8T, it always put a smile on my face.

I spent lots of money on the Bora so i could enjoy it more, but i just do not like diesel cars, what did not help was that i only do 30 minute tops journeys, so the 1.8T was getting the same mpg (35-40).

Shortly i will be getting it upsoluted, just to enhance the drive a bit more, if i was you i would change cars as the upgrade on a 1.8T is not that much of a jump to 200 bhp it should still remain reliable and drivable, where as in the 90 bhp it will cost a lot for this bhp and would it sacrifice reliability? and obviously insurance issues!

I hope my opinion has helped.

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hi,

im driving a diesel at the moment and the thought of a 1.8T sounds awesome if not for a few factors:

1) My age 21 hence high insurance!

2) No money to upgrade

3) I just love my diesel at the moment!

By the way how do you plan to get 200bhp out of a 90tdi? Would love to even reach that figure but just sounds impossible without some serious mods!
 

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ive come from a revo'd 1.8T to a revo'd TDI PD130 and im more than happy with my diesel. I wouldnt look back now to another 1.8T. cracking engine though.
 

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Im going to Australia in the summer so I wont be even considering changing until then due to funds.Ill be 20 by then so hopefully insurance will lower slightly. I just got a quote of ?2,500 which would be ok if I can get work to pay ?1,000 of it (my dad is the boss so some sweet talking might help out there lol.)

To get (roughly) 200bhp out of a 90 I was going to fit :
T25/28 hybrid turbo
Kerma race 520 injector nozzles
11mm fuel pump
FMIC
2.5 " downpipe
Bigger turbo inlet pipe
Custom rolling road re-map.
The whole lot can be done for about 2 grand if you shop around (well E-Bay most of it lol)
But..then you have to upgrade stuff like clutches etc. Plus i was told that it would be wise to upgrade to TT axles because the CV joints could not hack the torque. I already have 90k on my car so I'm thinking twice about doing it now.I also dont feel I have the technical know how to deal with the problems that will undoubtably arise from this project. Hence my idea for the tried and tested route via a 1.8T.

Dont get me wrong, I love diesels but I feel Ive got plenty of time in later life to drive diesels when I do more miles so I might aswell enjoy the benefits of a petrol while I can.
However, one day I dream of owning an RS6 so I figure I need to get some experience with "fairly" quick (relative to RS6) cars before I go that far or Ill just wrap it around a lampost.

Its a tough one for sure, but Ive got myself all excited over the prospect of having a decent exhaust note for a change lol (although i have been told my derve is the nicest sounding around)

Im not going to rush into this decision, gonna take my time and do my research first.
What year golf has the ko3s turbo?

I wouldnt say no to an audi A3 with a 1.8T either.
 

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Hi

I'm actually looking to do the same thing at the moment, could hardly
believe it when I read the post! Basically I've got a 2002 Leon TDI SE
110 BHP, which I got in August (which is awesome). To cut a long story
short my insurance company stiched me up, so I can't afford to insure
it anymore - because I now have a claim against me - so I'm having to
sell it. Started to consider a golf again, initially a 1.6, but then
found an insurance company called Bell (www.bell.co.uk), who specialise
in drivers with no ncb. Ran some quotes for the 1.6, then a tdi, then a
2.0 GTI and finally a 1.8T GTI and they all came out cheaper than the
Leon! Makes it even chaper if the car has a value lower than ?5k as you
can then have third party fire and theft cover. Also, I am 20 and live
away at uni (although car would be insured at home because it is lower
risk and have a garage and car is there just over half of the time).

Before anyone says I don't work for Bell either! Still at uni without a
car at the moment cos my insurance ran out on the Leon, which is no fun
at all. Just good to find a reasonably priced insurance company for
once.

HTH
 

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I went from a TDI (110bhp) to an S3 (1.8T - 210 bhp) then back to a MK4 Anniversary TDI 150bhp.

Would have loved to keep the S3 but a change in job forced me to sell, I just couldn't cover 400+ miles in at a week.

Now I have tweaked my Anni a little [;)] the only thing I miss from the S3 is the quattro.
 

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 you could always get a PD 130 and put a hybrid turbo on it, its good for 200bhp+ and the engine is strong to cope with it. A few comparisons, a friend has a 1.8T AUM chipped. we have driven both cars(back to back). Mine is a PD 130 with a hybrid turbo and we have both agreed mine seems to be slightly more powerful, gets to the 100 mph  quicker. Having said that his is a lot smoother and quite compared to mine a nice engine on the move, but his uses a lot more fuel than mine.
 

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If you don't mind paying high insurance (and are stupid with money like myself) then go with Elephant. I'm 19, 0 NCD, 1 claim and Elephant was the cheapest. Fully Comp on a 1.8T for me was.....?1750. Insurance on my Leon Cupra TDI is similar at ?1650. Really miss my old Mk4 though so will be switching to either a 130TDI or maybe the 1.8T if I decide to cope with the mpg.
 

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jeezes im 22 2ync 1 bump i pay 765
Had to go and rub my nose in it didnt you mate? lol
I dont fancy the idea of PD130 with hybrid turbo - its too similar to what I was going to do with my current car and will no doubt cause problems somewhere along the line.
I'd ideally like to find an AUM 1.8T then add a FMIC,full miltek/blueflame system, CAI and custom map and away Ill go.
Ive pretty much made my mind up by getting myself all excited now,but as I said earlier it will probably be a while before I make the change.

Do you reckon Id be better off returning my car to standardish spec before selling it or not? Im not sure.
 

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That sounds a lot of work [:O]

Why not PX the current car for a PD150 & get a remap, you'll hit near your target figure & get lots of nice extras trim wise.
 

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PD150's are generally out of my price range - I will have a max of about ?8,000.This will probably prevent me getting a good condition AUM so maybe Ill have to factor a K03-s turbo into my budget aswell.
Plus Id like to get to the 230bhp(ish) mark, which wont happen on a PD150 without serious ?????.

Thanks for the ideas/help and advice though it really is much appreciated.
 

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Rik, its gotta be an A3 Quattro - 180bhp standard on them, so thats just a remap really to get that power, and you can't complain with 4wd and proper rear suspension.

PS as you know, I went from tdi to 1.8t and I regret it. I don't do the
miles to justify a diesel, but once mine is chipped i'm sure i'll
forget all about diesel
 

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I was waiting for you to chime in mate hehe.
A3 quattro was my first intention, looked into them before anything else. Its just the insurance on them that spoils my chances.
Just got a quote of ?1700 fully comp for me on a 150bhp 1.8T but cant find anything under 3 grand for the 180. In a couple of years I'd love to go to S3/4 territory but until then I think a nice golf will more than suffice.

Did you manage to sell that turbo in the end?
 

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Maybe try gettin some trade insurance or something? If the business you
work for has a few cars, you could probably blag you'll be driving the
others. Alternatively keep on the parents insurance with a policy that
allows named drivers as main user, then you insure theirs (presumably a
cheap to insure car) and build up your no-claims

Nah, still got the turbo - i'm sure it'l come in handy some rainy day
 

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the website said greenlight only insure 21yr olds and over and Im 19.
I just got a quote from elephant of just over ?2,000 for a 180bhp quattro which Im very pleased about. Need to do some research into them first though. I assume they are the same to tune as all the other 1.8T's? And the 4wd has got to be a big bonus down the 1/4 mile.
Cheers for that Aidan!
I might try ringing greenlight tomorrow and ask the question,cant do any harm.
 

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I'm with Greenlight myself, they wouldn't insure me until I was 21.
Think you may be disappointed. I'm in the unfortunate position of
having a conviction, without Bell Direct were easily cheapest. That was
for a Mk3 Golf Gti 16v, group 15 I think. At 20/21 I can't remember
which, with 1year NCB, was ?500 fully comp. You can also try fleet
insurance where all your family's cars and drivers are covered under
one policy.

Don't give up just yet on the quattro! Its the same setup as the R32 I believe, so 6 speed and can handle silly power
 
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