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Missus needs a new city car to replace her Mk1 Ford Ka. Tried a Panda but hated the interior and I'm struggling to think of anything else proper small that's going to have the luxury to which she's accustomed. (Ka was full leather, aircon, quick clear screen, heated mirrors). Looks like a top spec Up might do the job? Heated seats and climate on those. I've seen that the cambelts need doing every three years, how big a job is that? Looks like there's a reasonable amount of space around the engine? She'll only be doing 5k a year so it's a significant addition to the cost per mile if it turns out to be a £500 job.
 

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I thought the Up was meant to have a lifetime cam belt? Not that I'd recommend leaving it as the original one for the lifetime of the car, that's a bad idea, but 3 years sounds a bit too often.

They feel reasonably nippy cars for a 3 cylinder, and they don't feel flimsy like a lot of cars of that size.
 

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I thought the Up was meant to have a lifetime cam belt? Not that I'd recommend leaving it as the original one for the lifetime of the car, that's a bad idea, but 3 years sounds a bit too often.

They feel reasonably nippy cars for a 3 cylinder, and they don't feel flimsy like a lot of cars of that size.
Looks like it's misinformation based on the inspection interval at high miles (which is 30,000 kms). Germany say lifetime, UK dealers try the usual "advisory" approach to generate extra work/£££. Found the workshop manual online and its easy to check, just one torx bolt to remove the cover and get access to the bolt so something I can do on a test drive away from the dealer (along with reading codes).

Seriously tempted to convince her to go with the GTI, hoping if I close my eyes it'll feel like a MK1 (OK, with better seats, better brakes, and probably faster)
 

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Get her to go gti... they look better if that is the only.choice... they come with more options as standard too...but will be tartan inside not leather.

Also the 1.8t fits as there is one driving around here with that engine swap... Butapperntly it takes quite the cutting and reshaping of the chassis and subframe.. so skip that a 1.4 tfsi should be a straight fit ( will need gearbox too as by the looks of it the ones used are weak and can only hold up to 130 bhp at max)
 

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yeah should be fun, it weights nothing and with 115 bhp and 200NM of torque on tap from a turbo-ed 3 cylinder it should be quite the fun thing on b-roads... probably not that fun on the motorway but hey what do you expect from a tiny 1litre engine?
 

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I'd go with the Up GTi. The Ford interiors look last century (whether they drive better or not). Even the 2021 looks like "my first tablet", analogue dials...

My colleague that has had an Escort/Focus since birth has now had his Focus 4 years! He is considering an all EV but it seems Ford have limited release plans right now. They seem VERY behind the curve. He has been mentioning all sorts of other EV manufacturers and that is not him, cut him in half, it reads "FORD".

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Edit: The Fiesta 2022 looks better interior wise, still got "my first tablet".
 
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there is something cool about analogue clocks though, mostly they don't suffer from electrical gremlins ;) but if you are buying new, a full digital dash that consists of screens would also be on my list of things the interior should have...
 
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