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Now that the anniversary gti is given a power increase to 230, this could filter on down to the standard gti at a later date is there any need for a R32 which could turn out to be slower especially on dry surfaces.

They cost about the same the GTI is better looking in my opinion and more tuneable, its a no brainer in my book gti everytime.

What do you think?.
 

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The R32 is a completly different car to the GTI - all be it 197bhp or 227bhp!

The R32 engine is a nice lazy lump and the fact that it has 247bhp means with the 4wd you can use all the power in all weather!

Believe me I have just bought anothe 4wd car after trying to drive a 230bhp fwd car for the last year...

200bhp is deffo the max amount of power for a fwd car...

Long live the V6 sound and 4wd!
 

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doubt the gti will get the edition 30 power increase as its got a bigger turbo, with a remap potential of 300bhp and 323ftlb of torque, now even with wheel spin that will eat alot of cars
 

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The r32 is awesome in the right hands i went to the vr6 owners club rolling road day and there was a 500bhp mk2 r32 there an awesome piece of kit all you guys should check it out that was acheieved using a standard engine. The car was owned by Andy Sahota.
 

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The r32 is awesome in the right hands i went to the vr6 owners club rolling road day and there was a 500bhp mk2 r32 there an awesome piece of kit all you guys should check it out that was acheieved using a standard engine. The car was owned by Andy Sahota.
no doubt an awesome r32, but what did it cost to get that power?
 

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Now that the anniversary gti is given a power increase to 230, this could filter on down to the standard gti at a later date is there any need for a R32 which could turn out to be slower especially on dry surfaces.

They cost about the same the GTI is better looking in my opinion and more tuneable, its a no brainer in my book gti everytime.

What do you think?.
I'd take the R32 every time. As someone said below you get to use all of the power in all weather. In terms of the looks, I'd still take the R32 over the GTi as it looks more special to me. It also sounds awesome - that's the one big thing I miss about my V6 TT.

As for there being any need for the R32 after the 30th Anniversary GTi is released all I would say is the R32 and GTi are as different as chalk and cheese. They are both Golfs but that's about where the similarities end.

As for the GTi being more tuneable I'd agree but the majority of the people who buy the GTi or the R32 couldn't give a monkeys about tuning it and will leave it as standard.

Don't get me wrong, I love the GTi, but for me it would always be the R32.
 

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Now that the anniversary gti is given a power increase to 230, this could filter on down to the standard gti at a later date is there any need for a R32 which could turn out to be slower especially on dry surfaces.

They cost about the same the GTI is better looking in my opinion and more tuneable, its a no brainer in my book gti everytime.

What do you think?.
I'd take the R32 every time. As someone said below you get to use all of the power in all weather. In terms of the looks, I'd still take the R32 over the GTi as it looks more special to me. It also sounds awesome - that's the one big thing I miss about my V6 TT.

As for there being any need for the R32 after the 30th Anniversary GTi is released all I would say is the R32 and GTi are as different as chalk and cheese. They are both Golfs but that's about where the similarities end.

As for the GTi being more tuneable I'd agree but the majority of the people who buy the GTi or the R32 couldn't give a monkeys about tuning it and will leave it as standard.

Don't get me wrong, I love the GTi, but for me it would always be the R32.
i personaly dont think the r32 does enough for the money, and fuel
 

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In the real world there are not many places were you can use all the power at your disposal,whether its 200,230 250.

The r32 sounds nice yes but you pay for that at the pumps and also at service and insuring it.

To me the r32 looks to much like a new jetta or passat from the front,where the gti with the red striping round the grill makes it stand out.
 

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I'd choose the R32, oh wait, I did. As said above they are both completely different cars. Don't get me wrong the gti is a great car but the R32 is so good in this countrys rubbish weather. Don't take any notice of the 0-60 times between the two either. Once its in third it leaves the gti for dead. Yes the Gti can easily mapped to over 250 bhp but a remap to go with my miltek will get me over 270bhp.

As for the debate about how much more it costs. It doesn't matter, You get your extra cash back when you sell it.
 

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doubt the gti will get the edition 30 power increase as its got a bigger turbo, with a remap potential of 300bhp and 323ftlb of torque, now even with wheel spin that will eat alot of cars
Highly likely i think.Take a look at how the MKIV evolved.
150bhp - 180bhp
ko3 turbo to slightly larger KO3s
Anni wit 180 bhp and eventually later models had 180 bhp.
 

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Yes there is a point to the R32. Choosing between them for me would be down to several points;

Price: GTi 30 1 - 0 R32 (GTi 30 is still cheaper than R32)

Performance: GTi 30 1 - 1 R32 (17bhp will not be enough to disguise 200kg)

Noise: GTi 30 0 - 1 R32

Economy: GTi 30 1 - 0 R32

Grip: GTi 30 0 - 1 R32

A tight comparison and not a lot in it. My money would go on the Focus RS as it will have a 5 cylinder engine with a turbo and 4x4 therefore pretty well the best of both worlds. However 300bhp as standard and no doubt no more than an R32, a no-brainer in my book.

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I ain't likely to be spending ?25k on a car any time soon, but that would be what I would spend it on if I was.
 

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The R32 SOUNDS Fantastic a V6 engine and 4WD against a 4 cylinder engine and useless F wheel drive.

I remember when rallying went from rear drive BDA engine escorts,Opel Manta 400s then to the Audi 4WD and other Group B cars to the Vauxhall Astra FWD types then it was not worth watching anymore unless you love to see understeer.

Colin McRae has just had a car designed from scratch to be put in to limited production in 2007 for use in rallying/ track use etc it is not front wheel drive it is rear drive or all wheel drive as these types of drive for a car offer the best solution for driving fast this is also why you will never see a front wheel drive F1 car.

If you want a decent sports car the only ones worth buying are either Rear drive or 4 wheel drive like a Audi RS4,M3,911 etc etc.

I would love to afford to run an R32 but as I do too many miles I made a DERV version = GT TDI 4motion Superchiped,Milltec,big brakes,Haldex Ecu Remap,17" rims now I get over 40mpg and the in gear times are quick with 290ft-pounds ! it also stops and goes with no traction or torque steer problems at all wet/dry/snow try and do that in your 230+ HP FWD GTI and see how you get on.
 

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The 3.2 ltr V6 engine and 4WD is a great combination but the styling of the Mk V R32 is IMO its biggest let-down. It looks like a Passat from the front, the chrome really doesn't suit it and the other styling differences aren't muscular enough to say this is "top dog". VW should have made it look like the recent R GTI show car - then it would have been worth the extra over the GTI.

At the moment, give me a GTI any day. Oh! Don't bother... I've already got one! [:D]
 
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