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my budget is 15k and I'm looking for a diesel.

I was all set to get a 2 yr old A3 2.0 tdi sport but I've seen I can get a 4yr old BMW 330d for this money.

What do you think I should go for ? - the A3 would be a newer car and its more modern inside IMO.
 

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If I was in that position (which id love to be but im not!) I would be considering a skoda octavia 2.0 TDI PD elegance with all the toys added.  Take a look, good luck, and enjoy whatever you get!
 

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Thats a good answer, I cant strees how good Skodas are. If you are not sure, go take a test drive. So much car for your money. If you want speed you could pick up a 2nd hand new shape Octy Vrs for ?16k, or if you want a huge comfy car with all the toys, get a Superb.
 

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The 6 cylinder BMW is another league performance wise compared to any Volskwagen group product you can buy for similar money. On that basis I'd put my money there. For a start RWD is far more entertaining. not sure whether your 15K would stretch to one of the later 3 series diesels but even the earlier engine will map to over 200bhp cheaply.

Depends whether you prize having a newer car or not really. The Skoda Superb does offer great value but you'd have to ask yourself do you value rear seat space over driving enjoyment. I think you could find a 3 series with a spec better than any Superb as well. Our 330ci is optioned upto the eyeballs.
 

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No question - 330d.

As has been said - forget having a newer car and drive one, make sure it's a manual and you'll be hooked. I was looking for one until we changed plans and the debate happened in our house too.

A3 or Golf 2.0 TDi against a 330d and which ever way you looked at it the BMW won.

There's plenty on the Trader to look at, if you can find a Sport then they're very much handling biased and have been described as harsh by some. The SE can be a bit of a sleeper as people don't expect them to perform well but they do!!
 

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I would have thought the BMW would have done the bulk of it's depreciating since cars most cars lose the majority of their value in the first 3-5 years so that's always a plus
 

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Trust me on this..go get a 330d and have it mapped and u will blow ya mind.I got a later 204bhp one and had it mapped and its sensational ...265bhp and well the torque is neck wrenching..i opted for the manual box as its fuel consumption is a lot lot better than the auto.Even the older 184 bhp one mapped is fun according to the BMW forums.

Im not knocking the audi ..cos its a good car but a 330d is in a different league and also a unfair comparison...like a 3.0tdi quattro A4 is a level playing field if u see what i mean,



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There's the usual scare stories about Turbos blowing, whilst it's something that could happen to any turbo engine I don't think it's a major issue for BMWs, in fact I think it's the early 150bhp 320ds that are more likely to have problems.

The other thing to note is if you get a facelift car (Sept '01) which you're obviously looking at then you'll get the revised steering and front suspension, check also the rear springs and the prop couplings - it has been known for them to start grumbling as early as 80k miles.
 

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There have been reports of drivetrain problems on remapped 330D's, particularly the pre facelifts. Clutch, diffs, gearboxes and turbos all known to fail particularly with agressive remaps.
 

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330d[Y] Super smooth common rail 6, rwd, solid interior and everything feels balanced. If you do go for the Beemer make sure you get one with sports seats.
 

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Well I hate BMW's on principal.

I hate all BMW drivers. The 3 series is common as muck.

I hate BMW salesmen even more.

But I still ended up buying a 330d which says something about how good they actually are.
 

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I think you could find a 3 series with a spec better than any Superb as well. Our 330ci is optioned upto the eyeballs.
I expect you could Sammyboy, but you would prolly have to pay stupid money...and to be honest...if you actually were sure of the ENTIRE spec of the Superb Elegance, you would be very hard pushed to beat it, and to be honest any other options you could think of are probably not worth worrying about, or failing that thay can be retrofitted for very little money.

Actually Sammyboy, please do me a favour and find me a better specc'd 3 series for similar money.
 

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I think you could find a 3 series with a spec better than any Superb as well. Our 330ci is optioned upto the eyeballs.
I expect you could Sammyboy, but you would prolly have to pay stupid money...and to be honest...if you actually were sure of the ENTIRE spec of the Superb Elegance, you would be very hard pushed to beat it, and to be honest any other options you could think of are probably not worth worrying about, or failing that thay can be retrofitted for very little money.

Actually Sammyboy, please do me a favour and find me a better specc'd 3 series for similar money.
I've read all about the 'edition 100'- one comment I liked was "Do you want to pay a load of extra money to celebrate Skoda's anniversary? Neither do we"

The 330ci I bought for my girlfriend has a better spec than an edition 100 and cost 14K. Let's not even go down the route of 'retrofitting'

Tell me does your edition 100 have electric folding mirrors, TV and teletext, heated leather/electric seats?

The 'Superb' is a great car but don't try and big it up too much.
 

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One thing to consider when buying a new car is ............ can you acually afford it........

Can u afford the car .... yes

Can you afford the insurance.... yes.

But can you afford to service it????? The BM will cost you alot more in parts.

They are good cars, which i wont disagree on. But i wouldnt own one, thats my 2 pence said.
 

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It's good that you wouldn't own one, there are enough of them as it is.

4plus servicing is cheaper than you'd imagine from a main dealer. A major service (Inspection II) costing ?260 from a respected specialist compares very well with VW.

The car I bought came with Euro+UK recovery, BMW warranty and one of the most comprehensive inspections I've ever seen on a used car including ?600 worth of new rubber. A stark contrast to the useless VW used program I experienced when I bought the Anniversary- awful dealers, poor attention to detail and a nightmare to claim warranty/sort niggles with.

Skoda are of course far, far better which is why I'd buy one if they made a car I actually wanted.
 

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One thing to consider when buying a new car is ............ can you acually afford it........

Can u afford the car .... yes

Can you afford the insurance.... yes.

But can you afford to service it????? The BM will cost you alot more in parts.

They are good cars, which i wont disagree on. But i wouldnt own one, thats my 2 pence said.
Equivalent servicing on my 2001 325i was cheaper at BMW dealer than MKIV service at VW dealer; service interval also longer at 15K. Also no cambelt to worry about on BMW.
 
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